Sinkhole Unlimited - true or false?

[FishMOD]

Hi,

I'm Fabio, an Italian MtG player. Some days ago I bought four Sinkhole unlimited on a known onkine magic store. The cards are then years old, but they are really perfect, ultra mint. This i a little strange to me and I start thinking that they are false. The cards are perfect for paper and colors, the only thing I noticed is that the skulls of the mana cost are a little bad printed (too sharp and with two vertical linesdescending from it). I would like to fins someone who has sinkholes unlimited to compare it to mine.
What do you think?

Thank You

FM

[Arvid]

These vertical linedescendings have always been on my Sinkholes aswell, and I've owned 8 ones, both from Unlimited and Beta, and I even made the bend-test on a beta-one, so ... The lines should be there!

If you just compare two magic cards closely you'll probably identify the fake one, feel the front too, measure the thickness of the card and compare it to another. If you're still not sure do the bend-test!

[FishMOD]

Thank you very much for the infos, but what is the bend test?

Regards

FM!

[frimble]

Try reading this site about testing for fakes:
http://www.apathyhouse.com/mtg/fake/index.php

I found it rather informative.

[Gabethebabe]

Take the card and bend it until the opposing edges touch.

A Magic card should live through this. I´ve done it on my first P9 card, just for kicks.

Don´t do this with a played Beta Black Lotus.

If your Sinkholes are Mint, they will pass without problems, if they are real.

[FishMOD]

Thank You very much guys, yet i´m sure that my sinkholes are not fakes  

FM!

[Smash]

Bend test is for newbs. Doesnt prove fakes, ruins good cards.

[SpencerForHire]

As a rule, its better to just put the card under a mag glass if you dont tust it.  Or have a professional inspect it, I've made proxies before that pass tests, and I dont like the idea of bending a gem mint Alpha/Beta  Mox just to know its authenticity when your pretty sure it is indeed real.

[chump]

I doubt they are fake.  Anyone who could make that good a counterfeit would most likely use their technology to duplicate a more valuable card than Sinkhole.

[FishMOD]

I think that duplicate a lotus is too difficult, because who buys a P9 (for hundreds dollars) is surely an "expert" and will check the card very well. People who duplicates money don´t do it with 1000$, but he does it with 10$, more easy to "sell"...

FM!

PS: Sorry for my bad english, i hope You understand what i mean  

[Jacob Orlove]

I doubt they are fake.  Anyone who could make that good a counterfeit would most likely use their technology to duplicate a more valuable card than Sinkhole.

Actually, I've seen fake beta StPs before. Like FishMOD says, it's easier to pass a $10 card as real than a $100 card. This is also why $10s and $20s are the most commonly counterfeited bills--$100s and $50s are too rare.

[SpencerForHire]

I think that duplicate a lotus is too difficult, because who buys a P9 (for hundreds dollars) is surely an "expert" and will check the card very well. People who duplicates money don´t do it with 1000$, but he does it with 10$, more easy to "sell"...

Take cash as an example, dollars bills are counterfeited more then 100 dollar bills or any other bill for that matter.. No one expects the dollar bills.

[Smash]

I think that duplicate a lotus is too difficult, because who buys a P9 (for hundreds dollars) is surely an "expert" and will check the card very well. People who duplicates money don´t do it with 1000$, but he does it with 10$, more easy to "sell"...

Take cash as an example, dollars bills are counterfeited more then 100 dollar bills or any other bill for that matter.. No one expects the dollar bills.

I call bullshit. Here is my proof, show me yours

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:zat_kKQrvLMJ:library.thinkquest.org/J003358F/trivia.html+most+counterfeited+bill&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

     That in the U.S., the $20 is the most counterfeited, followed by the $100 note, the $10 note,
               the $50 note, the $1 note, and the $5 note?  The $100 is the note that is most counterfeited
               in foreign countries.

[SpencerForHire]

My mistake, but it still shows the 20 as being more counterfeited than the 100... Hmm.. Sinkhole is valued at  about what now?  Not to make you paranoid or anything..

[Smash]

My mistake, but it still shows the 20 as being more counterfeited than the 100... Hmm.. Sinkhole is valued at  about what now?  Not to make you paranoid or anything..

Im not paranoid, I can spot fakes quite well, thank you.

[DEA]

the bend test is the last test
you'd go for the magnifying part first
i use a jeweller's loupe which i bought for inspecting knife edges
the circular pattern shows very clearly
i did the bend test for my ul lotus as a confirmation
i have also seen a damaged ul sapphire due to bend testing
but it's not severe
if you ask me, a little wear is ok for peace of mind

[HuntedWumpus]

The best way to look for fakes is with a high power magnification lenze adn take a really close look at the edges for 2 part construction, and to look at the total card. The bend test works pretty well but with new tech its getting easier and easier to makes flaws. If you have little experiance with counterfits, then i would suggest takeing a possinle counterfit to your local proffesional, or experianced card appraiser. When he examines the card ask him what he looks for and maybe he will give you some pointers. This is how i picked up much of my card info.

[Yare]

I've always just used a magnifying glass to closely examine the cards for the small circles on the cards.  Although, if I were buying something really valuable, I would be more careful.