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« on: March 11, 2004, 11:45:06 am » |
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*Name* Creature-Hound R 1/1 When ~this~ attacks and isn't blocked, ~this~ deals 1 damage to target player.
*Name* Creature-Hound RR 2/2 When ~this~ attacks and isn't blocked, ~this~ deals 1 damage to target creature or player.
These are obviously strong. Not sure yet if they're too strong. I think this is about the only way to safely give a 1cc creature a "power" of 2. That's the basic goal of the first one, aside from the interesting interactions available in multiplayer. The second is designed to give red aggro a little bit of permanent board control, something to supplement or even displace Scrolls. I think these are strong in all formats, but not unbalancing. Just as long as they aren't Goblins, they should be fine.
Current Wording:
Firetail Creature-Salamander R 1/1 When ~this~ attacks and isn't blocked, ~this~ deals 1 damage to target player.
Alkali Scorpion Creature-Insect RR 2/2 When ~this~ attacks and isn't blocked, ~this~ deals 1 damage to target creature or player.
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2004, 09:41:30 pm » |
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Spark Mage suggests that the first one is ok.
The bear may not be, since red bears always seem to suck. Although for RR I guess it's ok.
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2004, 10:48:35 pm » |
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These are good, but they don't seem too good.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2004, 08:32:18 am » |
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I'm curious as to how the second one is suppoed to replace Cursed Scroll. If I have something Scrollable, wouldn't I just block your dog with that creature?
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2004, 11:58:04 am » |
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Matt:
It's more for those situations where the opponent has a creature they're unwilling to block with. Something that you could kill if they'd just block with the damn thing, but is otherwise giving you headaches. Best "for instance" I can think of is when they have a horde of 1/1 and 2/1's (like against WW or Keeper after a Decree) and they know they can outrace you on damage. Or some 1/1 with an annoying ability that they'd rather keep you locked down with (Welder).
Everyone: Would the second be too strong if I pumped the second ability up to 2, or would it be just a really powerful rare?
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2004, 01:10:22 pm » |
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I think 2 damage would just be too much.
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2004, 10:00:07 pm » |
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I like both cards as they are. After all, red is not supposed to have very good creatures. Think about it - if the second one deals 2 damage, you are virtually having a 4/2 on second turn.
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2004, 03:56:16 pm » |
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Alright, conceded.
That being finished, I could seriously use suggestions on the names so we can finish these out.
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2004, 02:49:25 pm » |
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I came up with names. They could be better, but I'm fairly tapped out on the names front.
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2004, 03:05:05 am » |
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These are beautiful! I love them!
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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2004, 01:53:03 pm » |
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Wow, these names are horrible. I'll come up with something.
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2004, 04:59:11 am » |
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Perhaps introduce the trusty old DnD salamanders to magic? There already was a scalding salamander in exodus and a flowstone salamander in tempest, so perhaps these could be searing salamanders (sounds cartoonish) or flamebrothers or firetails.
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2004, 12:05:13 pm » |
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Wow, these names are horrible. I'll come up with something. Thank you. I've been having a horribly time trying to come up with good names lately.
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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2004, 06:47:34 pm » |
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Are you adamant about keeping these as hounds? Because if not, that opens up a whole world of possibilities.
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2004, 10:53:02 am » |
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Are you adamant about keeping these as hounds? Because if not, that opens up a whole world of possibilities. Adamant, no. Would I prefer it, yes. I just don't want to be too trite in naming these. I don't want something simple and stupid like "Lava Elemental" or the like. You get the idea. Feel free to adjust the creature type, but don't give me something moronic and easy. Matt: didn't you do a whole little study on Volcanoes and volcanic adjectives? Would any of those fit to these cards?
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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2004, 10:59:50 am » |
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VOLCANO RABBITOn a more serious note, I liked Stijn's suggestion of making one a salamander. How about "Firetail" for the small one with creature type "Salamander" and "Alkali Scorpion" for the other (type "Scorpion")?
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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2004, 12:02:22 pm » |
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Fair enough. I can deem these acceptable.
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« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2004, 06:14:51 pm » |
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As a chemist I have to object to the Alkali Scorpion.
WTF = Alkali Scorpoin supposed to do? React heavily with water under room temperature and 1 atmosphere condition? Make a strong base with Tert-butyl-goblin? It makes no sense.
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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2004, 02:13:16 pm » |
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Well I assumed it would be a scorpion that lived on (in?) an alkali flats or alkali lake, which you certainly get in the desert. Flamingos go there.
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« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2004, 03:00:03 pm » |
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Frankly, I've grown to like the names, so I don't care whether it makes sense "chemically". 24 hours
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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2004, 03:38:14 pm » |
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Closed and added.
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