A new angle on ce

[Rainula]

I do not own any ce cards, before I started getting power cards again I wanted ce to be legalized about 1 day after recieving mine in the mail, but reality hit.  I chose not to purchase a ce set and instead went for an unlimited lotus and a good start at a mox.

           I do believe, however, that ce is not without some future playability in type one.  The way the rules are now, ce is no defferent than unglued as far as legal playability is concerned.  I am not going to advocate making ce completely legal in type 1.  What I am going to suggest is to modify the restricted list to include ce cards.  This would cause any conflicts with standard/extended to be negated and for one and only one ce card to be included in any type one deck.  

          Of course in doing this modification there would also be another rule that states that no ce card in a deck that is already restricted could be used in its unlimited, beta, or alpha form in addition (I know this is wordy and poorly written, but I'm a math magor who has failed more english classes than most people attend:( .)

           I know many people wil instantly disagree with my suggestion.  I think that everyone here with power has worked hard for it and noone wants some cheap scrub to sell his ce set for real power.  Time is money, and although I didn't have the balls to buy a ce set, there are those that have.  If this suggestion is accepted buy the powers that be, and there is a new influx of power, there will be an increase in the value of ce, but not to the extent that everyone expects (there would still be stigma about using ce (is stigma the right word)).  Secondly and most importantly, I'm sure many of us know the trials we have gone through for power.  I don't even want to start a thread of how many of us have gotten ripped on e-buy or some trade sight becouse we would be on page 9 within a few days.  What I am ham handedly trying to point out is that starting with a ce set and having the goal of real power given the ce restriction update would be a long, risky, and demanding task that would require the level of dedication to type one that this sight rewards.  My power to these people, just not litterally.

          Please respond with your comments and questions.  Please do not turn this into another thread bashing ce players/cheaters.(though I am totally against them all) That is not the topic nor should it ever be because the rules are completely clear as to what is legal and what is not.  

          Hazzah, first thread

[jpmeyer]

Or the fact that the cards aren't shaped the same way

[Rainula]

clipping would be required.  I did not mention the benifits to this suggestion because they seemed obvious.  But just incase they arent,  more power=more competative players=somewhat less reliance on proxies=more real tournies=more attention to type one by wizards=good.

[Kerz]

Requiring people to alter their cards in order for them to be playable is simply not something wizards would EVER do.

[Rainula]

Perhaps that last comment should have been more thought out.  You are right Kerz.  Alpha cards are shaped differenty and toally legal in type one is the new justification that square corners are ok.  Another quazi benifit from ce being restricted is that players with power can have an english black bordered dual for x-treamly cheap.

[RoadTrippin]

Perhaps that last comment should have been more thought out.  You are right Kerz.  Alpha cards are shaped differenty and toally legal in type one is the new justification that square corners are ok.  Another quazi benifit from ce being restricted is that players with power can have an english black bordered dual for x-treamly cheap.

Buy a sharpie.



But seriously, if you can feel/see the difference between Alpha/Beta cards through opaque sleeves, then you need new sleeves. With CE- you can see or feel to make sure the once CE card you play with (which happens to be, say, Ancestral) will be on top every time.

[Kowal]

There shouldn't be structure in the corner of your sleeves.

I've investigated myself, and it's phenominally easy to cut to that card every time.  That's especially bad since in high REL tournaments, the order of deck presentation includes a final cut by YOU before you draw your opening seven.

[Rainula]

buy a sharpie,Hah.
Is the corners thing going to be the downfall of this antire idea?  Is there no way that problem can be fixed?  I think not.  BTW, Ancestral cannot be on top becuase opponent can always shuffle ( I do not want a shuffle thread to develope) and will almost always cut.  As stated earlier in this comunity, type one is as much about friendship and trust as it is about anything else.  If someone wants to cheat badly enough, and is skilled enough, we will not catch him/her easily.  With time this will become clear when ancestral in the oppening hand every game or two thirds of the games happens.  Type one is not the most benificial format to cheat in.  you will lose face, maybe friends, and might get a lotus for all that hard work of learning to cheat well.  Rob a freakin elderly if you want low risk unethical adventures. Just read last cut rule.  I think that if ancestral is the first card in your deck 4 times in a row, the 3600^2 odd would illustrate your cheatin ways.

[Kowal]

Once players have had the opportunity to shuffle and/or cut their opponents’ decks, the cards are returned to their original owners. If the opponent has shuffled the player’s deck, that player may make one final cut.

You are wrong.  The corners matter.

I had to edit this.  I'm not done.

Threads like this do not offer us anything.  This idea is unrealistic and, in addition, terrible.  It boggles my mind how people can make so many posts on the validity of running CE cards when it's such a ludicrously useless thread to have.  This thread needs to be locked, and people repeatedly found at fault for new ones need to be banned.

[Rainula]

In your quote of the rules, it states that if that players deck was shuffled, then you may cut the deck, however, if the deck was only cut, then you have no opportunity to cut your own deck.  Therefor, if your deck was cut, but not shuffled, you no longer have access to that last cut.(That last period is supposed to be larger so as to say to the world PERIOD, however hard I punched the keyboard it would not listen to my request)

[Kerz]

Threads like this do not offer us anything. This idea is unrealistic and, in addition, terrible. It boggles my mind how people can make so many posts on the validity of running CE cards when it's such a ludicrously useless thread to have. This thread needs to be locked, and people repeatedly found at fault for new ones need to be banned.

Yes. This subject has been absolutely beaten to death if you check around the forums.

Closed.

Edit: In the future, don't report closed threads. 99.9% of the time, the mods/VAs are doing their job correctly.