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Here's what someone linked me to. http://www.magicdeckvortex.com/VS_fifth_dawn.htmThe expansion symbol is looking pretty badass- looks so far like the set presents a lot of really cool cards for casual, but nothing much for t1 yet. EDIT: Changed the link to a non-Farked site and deleted the like 5 posts saying that the old link didn't work -jpmeyer |
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2004, 08:27:01 am » |
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This does confirm that these 29 cards actually exist.
Why was a card like Spark Elemental ever printed?
Now we finally have a better card than Sleight of Hand too.
And just to top it all off, we have Steelshaper's Gift which literally can read: "Search your deck for target Skullclamp and combo off with Kobolds."
It looks very interesting but I don't see any real Vintage standouts yet.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2004, 09:00:22 am » |
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These are the real deal and the new masticore seems prettty badass too
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2004, 09:10:56 am » |
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Otherwise, fun cards. I like Bringer of the Blue Dawn, but that's because he says draw two cards. Playable he's not but good golly gosh Timmy will love him.
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2004, 10:03:22 am » |
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Oh, so when I post this it gets locked.
I see how it is.... lol
Like JP said, scans are different.
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2004, 10:21:49 am » |
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1. Does this mean we can finally talk about Crucible of Worlds?
2. The Scrying blue draw spell is okay at best I think. It is like a Whispers with the possibility of being Dream Cache, and nobody plays either anyway. I think brainstorm is strictly better, but I might put this one in GAT over Sleight.
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2004, 10:23:45 am » |
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If only it were an instant. As it is, I think Sleight is better. Since both are sorceries you're playing them agressively- Sleight lets you do more choosing now where the 5D one's really only decent if you're going to Ancestral or Brainstorm after. It's kind of like how I always get left with the slops with Chamberlain's sister.
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2004, 11:53:52 am » |
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Ya, I think its time to start toying with Crucible of Worlds in Control. I've had a friend playtesting "Crucible Clinger" for awhile, its a pretty bad ass Keeper toy ... and I imagine decks will SB the christ out of the thing.
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2004, 12:27:23 pm » |
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Plunge into Darkness looks pretty interesting compared to Spoils of the Vault.
The Sunburst cards look like shit, though.
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2004, 12:45:06 pm » |
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Hey, you can see the green sun in the background of Arcbound Wanderer. I suppose the name '5th Dawn' made it obvious it was going to show up, but it's still neat. I'm excited to see how the green sun becomes apparent. I wonder if it's going to turn out that the five suns and the world of Mirrodin are actually six distinct worlds, each with a primary focus on one aspect of mana - with Mirrodin's primary focus being on artifacts. I also can't wait to get my hands on a playset of Furnace Whelp. It's not quite Dragon Whelp, but it's close enough to make me all nostalgic.
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2004, 12:45:28 pm » |
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Holy crap plunge is awesome...For all those unpowered but bazaared dragon people, plunge is a controled spoils so you don't die as often. It may even be used in Draw7 being black and acting almost like a demonic (although it has MAD bad synergy with returns).
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2004, 12:57:28 pm » |
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Yay another infinite life combo lol.
1-crucible of worlds
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yayinfinite mana too!!(lol)
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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2004, 01:13:50 pm » |
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Its too bad serum is a sorcery or there would be something to get really excited about. Already though, you can see some potential gain from it relative to brainstorm. In any deck where you care about the number of cards in your grave (namely tog, but dragon and squee decks care as well) it gives you up to two cards in the yard of your choosing for free.
I like the concept of returning spells to your library after casting with the beacon concept. It gives more shuffles for brainstorm.
Anyway, there is nothing in this set yet which makes me incredibly excited - but there is certainly more to come.
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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2004, 02:11:14 pm » |
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Blinkmoth infusion is SO stupid. Is tel-jilad justice going to be the new replacement for oxidize? Or is the 1 mana artifact killer going to stay?
On another note, will beacon of immortality going to have a place in any decks (maybe keeper)? Doubling your life total is nothing to scoff at.
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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2004, 02:24:59 pm » |
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the green scry spell looks good, additionally i like the thought of letting white have some good search (steelshapers gift)... quite a nice addition esp with instant speed equipping.
im going to have to test out some WW soon
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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2004, 02:38:33 pm » |
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Blinkmoth infusion is SO stupid. If by stupid, you mean BROKEN!!1one!! <KowalLazy> they need to raise the cost to like 27UU before it's not broken The card obviously sucks, but every set has to have its share of crap rares. |
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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2004, 02:51:08 pm » |
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They've gotten a bit invasion block on us.
Sundering Titan, Silent Arbiter, and the sunburst thing.
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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2004, 03:23:14 pm » |
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If by stupid, you mean BROKEN!!1one!! Ok, is there something I am missing completely? How the hell is that broken? 12UU? How many artifacts do you have in most decks? 5-6? So something that costs 6UU to untap them? Unless you use them with Mycosynth Lattice, and even then? I mean, Early Harvest? Even in Stax-ish variants, you won't have that many artifacts, and most work while tapped... Maybe I am missing something. 27UU? I would love to see that... |
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« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2004, 03:26:12 pm » |
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They've gotten a bit invasion block on us.
Sundering Titan, Silent Arbiter, and the sunburst thing. I don't know about that. There seems to have been a natural progression through the course of the block. In Mirrodin, we had Affinity for Artifacts, which encouraged people to play decks with lots of colourless permanents, with not real emphasis on coloured spells or mana, at all. In Darksteel, we had Affinity for <Basic Land>, which rewarded decks for using a lot of one colour - not ruling out artifact decks, but certainly making it more worthwhile to use coloured spells as well. Now, in Fifth Dawn, there are spells that encourage people to use all colours of mana. |
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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2004, 03:38:39 pm » |
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Coming Soon: Coalition Victory.dec.
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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2004, 04:16:32 pm » |
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Don't make me build it, I know I have the cards for it let's see
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« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2004, 04:37:23 pm » |
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Is there another card with 12 cc printed on it? I think thats the first time I have seen that. Am I the only one who thinks spark elemental is the shit?
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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2004, 04:52:33 pm » |
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Is there another card with 12 cc printed on it? I think thats the first time I have seen that. Am I the only one who thinks spark elemental is the shit? I don't think there's another 12cc. There's 10, 11, and 16, but not 12. Spark Elemental isn't going anywhere in Type One. [card]Chain Lightning[/card] and Lightning Bolt guarantee it, I think. |
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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2004, 05:05:33 pm » |
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Spark Elemental isn't going anyway in Standard, either, for much the same reasons all the Odyssey "punisher" cards didn't.
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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2004, 08:24:51 pm » |
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new masticore seems pretty solid. Looks like the possessed portal could be pretty soild too, with welder.
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« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2004, 08:26:57 pm » |
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the portal is a new hard lock for stax
assuming the cc is doable, of course :lol:
with this and 3 sphere in play, an early portal is gg
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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2004, 12:34:17 pm » |
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I fail to see how Blinkmoth Infusion is broken. You untapped all your artifacts. So? If you have enough artifacts/mana to play this thing, haven't you already won?
Is it just me or does anyone else think that the art for Possessed Portal look straight out of Legends? And Etched Oracle bears a striking resemblance to Jar-Jar Binks. Hmmm...
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