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Author Topic: Gay/R - No Mo'  (Read 1028 times)
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« on: April 29, 2004, 08:45:04 am »

Hi,

all you players out there creating numerous, well-visited and well-written in thread sin Open about the deck Gay/R. Lately, merely after PTWs Gay/R/Fish deck, my thread and somebody else's, the threads have kept comming. The problem isn't really the threads, but it is the fact that the discussion is irrelevant.

Gay/R is small men. Very small men that will die to any White Knight. Besides, it runs about 40% disruptive elements to make those small critters viable as a finisher. But to survive with such weak elements, small crits and counter-reactive disruption, it needs to metagame itself every damn time for every damn tournament, and this is were the problem lies.

People always use the same arguments when declining a use of a card. "I didn't find it useful in testing." "I didn't use the ability enough." These are viable abilities, but people should begin to understand the following statement:

There is no perfect build, and achieving a such is not needed. The discussions always end up people naming their different uses, being it 3 or 4 Lavamancers, Voidmage or no, 2 Daze, none or 4 Daze - these discussions are fine, if they had anything to add to the general, fundamental understanding of the deck. But they haven't.

The draw engine in fish is so random that you sometimes draw no stifle in multiple games, even when you are running 3. Therefore, that player drawing no stifle may conclude that the card isn't good. A player need to test Gay/R a lot more then any viable tournament deck today because of its different approach, every damn match in every damn tournament.

Everybody playing the deck know what cards can be used in it. Discussing the use of 1 Stifle, 2 Stifle, 3 Stifle or even 4 Stifle isn't necessary. This is the perfect example of metagaming. Nobody will ever agree with eachother, because there is no thing to agree with. The people discussing will only be able to post oppinions on their build and their choices, but no one ever change their build according to others, as it is a individual case.

Like Tog can't be build in budget, Fish can't really be discussed, unless some fundamental changes are discussed. The beauty and strength of fish is its versatility and strong ability to 'metagame', or tune the deck to the upcomming tournament. When will people begin to understand that there is no point in discussing all these cards, as it leads to absolutely nothing.

So please people, to get to the point, stop having all these worthless, yes, worthless discussions about the difference in Fish. The deck is always different. It is like Mona Lisa - every person gets something different out of it. Start to discuss other decks, so this doesn't end in Gay/R forum - this is Open, not Gay/R forum, people, so begin discussing the other decks around. Build your own version and test it. It is, 99% chance, as good as all the other builds out there. As the discussions is now, there is no more to add, as players build their Gay/R. It have been said, so unless you have revolutionary changes to make, keep your mouth shut and read what other people have already written down.

Thank you.
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2004, 09:03:59 am »

Locked because well, like you said there are already a million fish posts[/color]
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