StuffStill: Stuff and Still.

[lOlive]

I am testing Landstill/GayUR with MagicWorkStation, and I must admit I love it (with Green for regrowth).
I think Standstill has a lot of potential, even with few man land in the deck.
At the moment, my concerns are about explosiveness of the deck.
Let's admit it, it is really slow.

For testing purpose, I added one Masticore (good beast at beatdown, board control and disk-resistance). This addition was quite good.
Then I added a Goblin Welder. Which stormed most artefact-oriented decks (and allowed some nice tricks with the masticore).

After that, I considered other creatures I could include in my secret team. Obviously morphling can be a nice addition, gorilla shaman, etc...

My deck was getting far from the original LandStill philosophy.

Then I remembered someone who wrote on TMD: "Who would ever want to play Living wish?"
So I kept a main deck masticore+welder and added 3 wish.
I prepared a nice sideboard with very nasty beasts and lands (morphling,  vandals, maze, tabernacle, magus, hammer mage, lavamancer, time elemental...).

I would like to discuss the beasts that could potentially go in such a sideboard. And your opinion about that  "stuffStill" deck..

[Hi-Val]

When it comes to Living Wish, Survival of the Fittest is almost always superior. You get multiple uses and you can maindeck threats and not rely on a Wish to grab something. The advantage of Living Wish is being able to grab lands, so you have to make a pretty compelling case for wrecking a sideboard to justify it.

I'm not discounting the idea, I just think you need a lot more testing and possibly a decklist to provide. The idea of creatures in Landstill is throwing me, personally.

[xzero]

No list?

Sounds like the manabase is terrible, and that your deck is trying to do too many different things, and therefore will be inconsistent.

Red Elemental Blast is the only good sideboard card in Landstill...

[Arvid]

Personally, the only exciting things about green in Landstill would be the addition of Treetop Village MD and possibly the Oath of Druids-engine in the sideboard.

Although, I think you should make your deck 2-colored; It's better against LD/Blood Moon/B2B and you should fizzle less often.

[bebe]

"Who would ever want to play Living wish?"

Living Wish belongs in Belcher and no where else that I know of. This is a deck designed to use the wishes for fetching land and the odd creature.

Landstill does not need green or Masticores. Shamans have been used on occasion and make some sense in some metas.

I think Standstill has a lot of potential, even with few man land in the deck.
At the moment, my concerns are about explosiveness of the deck.
Let's admit it, it is really slow.

It's a control deck that clears the board with Disks. Keeper is also slow. What is your point here? Combo needs to be fast. Aggro needs to be fast. Control takes it time.

[lOlive]

I agree that SofT is strictly better. But creatures in the main deck takes slot for the control part of *still.
Having 187 creatures or maze/tabernacle available during game 1 can help against decree/angel/critters/artos. Then you can side them out for game 2, replacing them with hate or opponent-specific creatures.

[Toad]

French techz  

[rmn]

Viridian Shaman / Orangutan / Keldon Vandals.  Avalanche Riders / Strip Mine.  Man'o'war?  Um... Viridian Zealot?

The problem is that Living Wish is slow and 187 creatures aren't so hot right now.  There is no Wishable card that will cripple Workshop or Tog or combo, though it is admittedly helpful against aggro.

Hey, Glacial Chasm!  Oh yeah, and Maze of Ith I guess helps for Tog.

Maybe you should use Cunning Wish.

[rvs]

French techz  

Arr.... does such a thing exists? I think not sir!

[LinkXwing]

Let's see...You took standard Landstill, bastardized it with a Landstill/UR Fishy hybrid because they both use Standstill as a draw engine (even through one of the main cards in Landstill is it's disk which will blow up your critters).

Then you realized that disk blew up your creatures so you wanted a critter to live through the disk and what better than masticore right...?  Then you realized Masticore was too slow so you crippled your mana base to add Mishra's Workshop to accelerate Masticore and Disk out.

My only question about your build is....WTF?!

[The Atog Lord]

I'm not sure that cards in Type One really die. They just fall asleep, hoping to be revived either by shifting metagames, or the printing of new cards. People believed Berserk to be dead for a long time, but the card is now seeing quite a bit of play. Same goes for Elvish Spirit Guide. And wasn't Illusions sitting in people's trade binders for years before Wizards printed Donate?

[lOlive]

Let's see...You took standard Landstill, bastardized it with a Landstill/UR Fishy hybrid because they both use Standstill as a draw engine (even through one of the main cards in Landstill is it's disk which will blow up your critters).

Then you realized that disk blew up your creatures so you wanted a critter to live through the disk and what better than masticore right...?  Then you realized Masticore was too slow so you crippled your mana base to add Mishra's Workshop to accelerate Masticore and Disk out.

My only question about your build is....WTF?!

The idea was more to add 187 capabilities to Landstill. At the moment, my deck only contains masticore in addition to a landStill build. The idea of living wish is to try and improve bad matchups of landStill.

[Toad]

Masticore is not an efficient board sweeper. You'll never get to the 8 or 10 manas you need to shoot an Arrogant Wurm or a Pentavus.

Just play URW or UW with Swords to Plowshares.