Blue Creature, small and flying...

[Rando]

Whatever Drake
U
Creature - Drake or whatever
2/1
Flying
At the begining of your upkeep, put a counter on ~this~.
At the end of your turn, tap an untapped land for each counter on ~this~.

Floodprophet
U
Creature - Drake
2/1
Flying
At the begining of your upkeep, put a flood counter on Floodprophet.
At the end of your turn, tap an untapped land you control for each flood counter on Floodprophet.

The woes that travel in his wake are as sure as the spring rains.

[Rando]

Should it come into play with a counter on it?

What type of counters?

[Jacob Orlove]

An untapped land you control, perhaps?

[johnstown713]

This card seems a little good since the decks it would go in usually have their lands tapped such as fish.  I like the counter idea and maybe it could be a flood counter.  Overall it seems like a very good card.

Johnstown713

[Rando]

An untapped land you control, perhaps?

Oops, duh.

Fixed.

 I like the counter idea and maybe it could be a flood counter.  
Johnstown713

You just inspired not only the type of counter, but name and flavor text as well.

[johnstown713]

So Sweet.  The card is definetly shaping up.  I like it a lot and it actually looks like something Wizards would consider printing.  The only problem I see is haveing the type of counter be part of the creature's name.  Maybe it could be something along the lines of Waterfront Drake.  I think all the drakes I can think of actually say Drake in their name but I am not sure.

Johnstown713

[Rando]

I kinda like the name; we can change the creature type.  

Also, since it's a full turn before one would see any drawback, should the cost perhaps be 1U?  1U for a 2/1 flyer is still pretty good.

[johnstown713]

I think it almost has to be 1U since if I were to ever play this in a deck it woiuld be a deck that usually made all of it lands tap.  The drawback is pretty harsh already though for a blue deck since you can't say go and then mana drain them early in the game.  I am going to scratch my first sentence and say it should saty at U for the CC.  The ability to not have a second turn counter aside from force of will is not good.

Johnstown713

[Jacob Orlove]

[Card]Spindrift Drake[/card]

[johnstown713]

LOL,  wow that shot this card.  I had never even heard of that before maybe that is why the concept was so good.

Johnstown713

[Jacob Orlove]

Also, [card]Troublesome Spirit[/card]

[Rando]

Well, the little guy here is still different enough, I think, to continue.

Are you thinking we should abandon it?

[PucktheCat]

I like this card.  Neither of those two were good enough to ever see play, so we could push this a bit.

Leo

[Jacob Orlove]

I just wanted to point out what had already been done. This is a little different than those cards, but there's enough similarities that we'd want to be careful to avoid duplication of effect.

[PucktheCat]

Troublesome Spirit provides a rough guide to the how big a disadvantage Wizards thinks not having mana open on your opponent's turn is.

This is also a bit similar to Chimeric Idol.

This guy would absolutely rock in Fish, which is perhaps an indication that he is a little overpowered.  I think this might see a play as a 2/2 for U1.

Leo

[johnstown713]

Even if you make it a 1U CC creature then it would be hard to up the toughness too.  If the casting cost is altereds to 1U it should still stay a 2/1.  That would balance it out a little but not overpower it.  Say in fish for example if we left it at a U for the casting cost.  First turn: Mox Sapphire, Island, 2 (of this card).  Second Turn:  Double curiosity, swin for 4, draw 2 cards.

Johnstown713

[Gandalf_The_White_1]

This card is obviously a good fit for any aggroish deck running blue that doesn't care about tapping out at the end of it's turn.  Seems very strong in fish.  I don't want to see it become 1U casting cost, though, because then it would be weak.

I think you should have a choice of tapping the land at the end of your turn or sacrificing the creature.  It seems to make more sense flavour-wsie and fits more with similar cards.

Johnstown: Your fish example seems kind of funny if you compare it to what dragon dones turn 2.

Also, resp to attack, I firestorm!!!!! .  I get what you are saying, though,  I just don't have any ideas of how to weaken the card a bit without making it suck.