Bad Players and their anger at Good Players

[Kerz]

Have you ever played against someone that was just bad, or had a terrible deck? I'm sure you have. Have you ever been yelled at, accused of cheating, or otherwise the butt of bad players' anger at good players?

I can remember one time at Hadley...

Turn 1: Player is playing first, and Mulligans once

Player: I cast Black Lotus, Brushland, Sacrifice Lotus for GGG, play Glissa, Sunseeker.
Kerz: Force of Will. (that thing is a beatstick! )
Player: I KNEW IT!! I KNEW YOU FUCKING HAD IT! THATS RIDICULOUS! EVERY FUCKING GAME!

And it continued on like that for a few more minutes.

This same person talked to the store owner about Nick Tourlukis (Billtheduck) cheating, because he drew four FoW's in the course of their long, drawn out game.

What are your personal experiences with this?

[st00mie]

"oh, of course james is playing something with blue"

"well i could win if i drew cards like that too"

"the only reason i lost is because of..."

[Jacob Orlove]

The worst is when they build decks with like 18 lands, and then complain that they only lose because of mana problems--and heaven forfend you should play a wasteland.

[Matt]

While playing with the Show and Tell/Darksteel Colossus deck, I cast a Lim-Dul's Vault during my upkeep and went looking for a Time Walk, that being the only card that could save me (and also win the game). I dug for THIRTY-FIVE CARDS before finding it, and then got accused of being "lucky".

I tutored for it and I was lucky. I had to dig through more than two-thirds of my remaining deck, and I was lucky.

He even KNEW I tutored for it because that Vault was the only card in my hand. What would 'unlucky' have been, if I'd thrown away all ten of my life points? If I forgot to include it in the decklist? Someone answer me, please!

[Jacob Orlove]

While playing with the Show and Tell/Darksteel Colossus deck, I cast a Lim-Dul's Vault during my upkeep and went looking for a Time Walk, that being the only card that could save me (and also win the game). I dug for THIRTY-FIVE CARDS before finding it, and then got accused of being "lucky".

I tutored for it and I was lucky. I had to dig through more than two-thirds of my remaining deck, and I was lucky.

He even KNEW I tutored for it because that Vault was the only card in my hand. What would 'unlucky' have been, if I'd thrown away all ten of my life points? If I forgot to include it in the decklist? Someone answer me, please!

I think he means you won the gene lottery--something he obviously failed to do.

[CF]

I remember a guy complaining that he had chosen the wrong deck, he should have played the red deck - after someone somehow managed to beat his almost undefeatable black deck - sporting 0 1-drops, 4 2-drops (silent assassin, not nantuko shade of course), 0 3-drops, 0 4-drops and 0 dark rituals.

He played against powered t1. Oh yes, his red grey ogres and lightning bolts deck would have won for sure!

I can't really think of many other examples than this from RL. People are wary about yelling at me (being big and old has advantages). On Magic online however... endless stories.

--
Chris

[wuaffiliate]

at a local type0 tourney:

"you always have the fucking counterspell"

"i hate that card" (@ standatill)

"why am i losing all you do is draw cards and attack with that 2/2 land"

"whatever" (@ casting ancestral AGAIN)

"you playing conrol again?"

"why dont you learn how to play something else?"

and so on, i find control pisses people off the most, so i usually play it.

[Bram]

How odd. People over here are quite charming during tournaments compared to over there, apparently. The stuff mentioned above is why I quit playing T2 tourneys. This never happens to me in T1. I find that as long as I'm polite, people will do me the same favor.

It's not like you never see someone cringe when you Waste something (allthough it's been years since I've played anything that could support Wastelands or overhear them telling someone else: 'If I'd JUST drawn that XXX...' afterwards, but never in a whining fashion, really. And usually, it'd be true. Case in point: I was playing Draw-7 against Sui with maindeck Null Rods during the last tourney. He also had Planar Void out; so I was left with the task of building up a lethal (>18) Tendrils of which I had 1 copy in my deck after a Diminishing WITHOUT the use of artifact mana OR Will (we were 1-1 at that point). I carefully build up my plan and in the critical turn, I managed (through some savage Hurkyl's Recall pwnage) to up the spell count to 7, involving a Vampiric for Tendrils, taking me to 1 life. I proceeded to play a Wheel with BBB floating. I had not played a land. I drew 7 cards, knowing I'd draw the Tendrils for 18, and just HOPING there's be some mana source there. A Mox. A Sol Ring. A Land. Any land. Oh no wait, not ANY land. The only mana I found was  City of Brass How lucky.

So that was a situation where he knew full well he'd got away lucky and it was HIM sho said: 'oh man, if you'd JUST drawn a decent land...'

[Jacob Orlove]

How odd. People over here are quite charming during tournaments compared to over there, apparently. The stuff mentioned above is why I quit playing T2 tourneys. This never happens to me in T1. I find that as long as I'm polite, people will do me the same favor.

It's more that almost all of the T1 players are good opponents, so the ones that aren't really stick out in your memory. Pretty much everyone from TMD has been an excellent opponent, in my experience.

[wuaffiliate]

<3

[Hi-Val]

I've had pretty good opponents. I kinda feel sorry for the people who take casual decks to tournaments though. There's no way that your burn deck that rules the kitchen table will ever have enough turns to burn out Belcher. This is less excusable in the case of proxy events, but I feel that there may be two facets of T1: The tourney players (TMDers) and the rest, who usually just go on to pay for someone else's mox. In almost all cases, I point people to TMD so they can read up and get better. Of all the things I hate at tournaments, nothing chaps my britches more than winning because I played bad people. I want competition, I like it, I pay money to play against good people who give me a run for my money.

[Purple Hat]

there may be two facets of T1: The tourney players (TMDers) and the rest, who usually just go on to pay for someone else's mox. In almost all cases, I point people to TMD so they can read up and get better. Of all the things I hate at tournaments, nothing chaps my britches more than winning because I played bad people.

good point.  I always feel bad when I get up after a round where I played some kid who clearly just didn't understand the power level he was getting into.

I think that tournament players are much more accepting of their losses because they've seen it happen the other way so many times and know that sometimes you just lose.  Also for us there will always be another tournament next week, where as for the non tourney players playing for a mox is a really rare event.

[dandan]

I remember playing old-style Prison (waaaaaaaaaaay back) against a control deck using Factories and Jade Statues (I told you it was ages ago). He bitched and bitched about just needing 1 more mana to (presumably lower my life to 18 or 16)..
I even persuaded him to go to the pub after the tournament (I won) and beat him 5 games in a row (Prison in those days took some time IF an opponent failed to concede when locked).

On the flip side I remember a scrub being very civil after I lucked my way out of a Stasis/BoP/Instill Energy lock (didn't see it coming).

[KandyKid]

I accuse people of cheating all the time. Ofcourse though, everybody knows im just fucking around though..heehe.

I call people "Cheatie McCheaterson" all the time.

If a situation arrises where they rip bomb after bomb, its "Lucky McLucksack".

But ofcourse, If I rip bomb after bomb, everyone knows its skill, not luck, thats just how it works around here.

[Cuandoman]

From my last tourney:

Round 3 vs. Dave with Type 2 affinity + Skullclamps

I feel REALLY sorry for this guy. He never saw it coming. He complained about Type 1 the whole rest of the night. I could have tried to counter argue but there was no point.

Game 1: I daze the first 2 things he plays and I let a turn 3 Skullclamp resolve because I have the Null Rod waiting and ready. I play it, and on his turn he tries to tap an artifact land. I inform him of his mana problem and he enters the scoop phase, bitching all the way.

Game 2: Turn 2 Null Rod … sigh … commence scoopage.

3-0

And the bitching never stopped...

[Shock Wave]

At a tourney in Hamilton:

I play turn 1 Xantid Swarm.

Him <angrily>: That's supposed to be a sideboard card.

I combo him him off next turn with WGD. Next game, I crush his lame control deck and he dies with like a million useless blue counters in hand. I extend my hand and wish him luck in the next round.

Him <angrily>: Whatever. I'll have Tormod's Crypt to fix you up next time.

So hostile!! lol. You'd think I fucked his sister or something.

[iamfishman]

At a tourney in Hamilton:
So hostile!! lol. You'd think I fucked his sister or something.

Yeah...he should be hostile toward me for that

[rvs]

wow, iamfishman stole the words out of my mouth :p

[Razvan]

So hostile!! lol. You'd think I fucked his sister or something.

How rude!    

People really hate dragon. Really. You should just read the thread on mtgont when they restricted Worldgorger at Bingemans...