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« on: February 25, 2004, 07:50:01 pm »

Original Wording:

Pawn Shop
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Remove a creature you control from the game: Gain X life where X is the converted mana cost of the removed creature
Pay X+2 life: Return a creature to play that was removed by Pawn Shop where X is the converted mana cost of the removed creature

Current Wording:

Free Market
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{T}, Remove an artifact you control from the game: Add X colorless mana to your mana pool where X is the converted mana cost of the removed artifact
{X}+{2}, {T} : Return an artifact with converted mana cost X that was removed by Free Market to play under owner's control


Trying to figure out an appropriate flavor text right now.  I don't really see this being used to gain life too often.  It would most likely be used as pay 2 life to save a creature you control.  Perhaps it should be X+3 life to return it to play?  I don't know.  Actually, how about if this was an imprint ability?  Would that work?
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2004, 08:22:41 pm »

Come on!  There's got to be something wrong with this, or something that can be improved...
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2004, 09:55:06 pm »

The flavour feels off to me, if that's any help. With a name like 'Pawn Shop' I feel like it ought to have the same effect, except for artifacts, instead of creatures. A version for creatures could be called 'Safe House.'

I think that paying X+2 life to get the stuff back is okay, but I think removing them from the game should come at some cost, as well. {2}: or {T}: would be appropriate, I think.
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2004, 11:34:10 pm »

I agree with Ephraim on the flavor issues.

Also, you're missing the words "to play" in the second ability.
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2004, 11:41:16 pm »

Pawn shops give cash right? Paying/gaining life almost seems like some kind of dark alley plastic surgeon to me, if that makes any sense at all.

What if it gave mana instead? Just replace the life loss and gain with colorless mana. It'll probably end up making an infinite mana generator, but we've already got so many 2 card infinite mana combos that it should hardly matter. Alternately just add a tap onto the second ability and you're good to go.

Either way seems fine to me.

@ Ephraim: Safe Haven already exists and is really similar to Safe House. It's also close to the original card idea, which is partly why I suggested a change to mana/artifacts instead of life/creatures.
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2004, 07:09:10 pm »

Edited.  What do you guys think?

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Remove an artifact you control from the game: Gain X colorless mana where X is the converted mana cost of the removed artifact
{X}+{2}, {T} : Return an artifact with converted mana cost X that was removed by Pawn Shop to play under owner's control
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2004, 07:20:26 pm »

Remove an artifact, return a creature???  :shock:
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2004, 07:28:36 pm »

Ah well, fixed.  How silly of me.... Changed the text once, instead of twice.
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2004, 07:40:22 pm »

Is this name too similar to [card]Rishadan Pawnshop[/card]?
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2004, 07:51:18 pm »

hm... you're right.  Didn't notice that.  How about naming it Pawnbroker and turning it into a creature?
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2004, 03:20:25 pm »

Shouldn't it be "Add X to your mana pool", instead of "Gain X colorless mana"? Should be the same wording as Mana Drain + errata, right?

It's a shame that the Rishadan Pawnshop already exists. I mean, it's so terrible and this card has some great flavor. I think we should leave it as is, just to show WOtC what a pawnshop really looks like. It's not like Wizards hasn't given multiple cards similar names before. [card]Test of Faith[/card] and [card]Testament of Faith[/card] anyone?
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2004, 06:37:35 pm »

Yeah, I missed the "Gain mana" thing.  It should devinately be fixed.
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2004, 07:36:00 pm »

Well, everything's been fixed now.  The only remaining issue is whether or not I should change the name because it is too close to Rishadan Pawnshop.  And I'll wait for some responses before initiating the clock.
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2004, 07:42:54 pm »

Yeah, I think you should change it. Maybe to something like Free Market or another kind of Bazaar.
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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2004, 07:09:31 pm »

All right, for lack of anything better, the card has been changed to Free Market.  

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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2004, 05:08:56 pm »

Change "Pawn Shop" in the second ability to Free Market and it should be good to go.
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2004, 09:30:46 pm »

How odd.  It appears that another one of my ideas was left out to dry.  Oh well.  Here's for a second try.  I'll let everyone have a second go at it before trying to get the mods to add it to the list.
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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2004, 10:35:32 pm »

I think this should tap to use the first ability, so combo can't abuse it.
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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2004, 10:51:17 pm »

Changes made. 24 hour clock initiated
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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2004, 01:02:53 pm »

Closed and added.[/color]
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