Building Combo....

[kronofear]

I need some semi budget options for my combo deck I am building.


1 Dream Halls
1 Mind's Desire
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Necro
1 LimDul's Vault

1 Fact or Fiction
1 Frantic Search
4 Brainstorm
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Dark Ritual
1 Enlightened Tutor

1 Lion's Eye Diamond

2 Tendrils of Agony.

Need
4 Academy Rectors
1 Yawgmoths Bargain
1 Yawgmoths Will

I just traded for the Lion's Eye Diamond and the Necro this weekend which made me so Happy. Right now I am playing Talismans in place of Moxes, and Rush of Knowledge in place of Draw 7's

what I need are options for my lands, and blue draw spells.

The basic premise is like that of Tubo-zvi mixed with Academy Rector and TPS/Long Death. You Rector out a Dream Halls to use your draw spells to find bargain/necro, draw some more to find will. cast will up your storm and cast Tendrils of Agony.

[Gandalf_The_White_1]

First of all, you have very little content; your post is mostly just a semi-complete decklist, and second of all, you seems unaware of several basic deck building concepts.  This will probably get locked but I will try to give you a few tips:

If a card doesn't cost more than 20$ or so, don't base decklist constraints upon having/not having said card.  Ie, pretend you have access to blue dual lands, fows, etc, all the basic staples to Vintage. (no need to list that you need rectrs bargain and will)

Combo decks based around acamy rector were vaible before but simply don't work anymore(they are no longer viable); recter trix and rectal agony.

Making budget storm combo is very difficult because power is almost necessary for the deck to work properly; you cannot run the same bombs such as mind's desire, timespiral, etc, becuase your lack the necessary accleration to cast them well (without running terrible mana accel cards).  You become natrueally slower and must rely on a specific engine for storm count (as in kobald tendrils (clamp+0cc doods) and easter tendrils (eggs+ helm)

Unless you can almost always kill turn 1-2 (which is pretty much impossible with budget combo), you require some form of disruption, ususally duress, force of will, or both.

Dream halls is a terrible card.

What you have now basicaly looks way to slow and clunky to be effective.  Keep in mind what I said, read up on current storm combo decks (Steve's Meandeath articles, for example, are great), and try out playtesting, golfishes, etc, then tinker around and try for another post that is well thought and and with more content.

[kronofear]

A) I plan on getting power. It will just take me a very long time. Therefore in the meantime I need options for my deck.

B) I have read every article on Long Death/Mean Death whatever whoever wishes to call it.

C) I am not asking if it is viable or not. YOu are correct if I planned on going to a tournament which no type 1 tourneys are played near me I would go copy Carl Winters Deck.

D) I like Dream Halls. It is amazingly broken. In case yo9u don't realize it Dream Halls is a Mana Maker to the fith level. Why pay 6 for a Bargain when you can discard a card?

I wonder what deck bulding concepts you think I am missing? Perhaps you are one of those people that think Lim Dul's Vault sucks too?

[Gandalf_The_White_1]

A) I plan on getting power. It will just take me a very long time. Therefore in the meantime I need options for my deck.

B) I have read every article on Long Death/Mean Death whatever whoever wishes to call it.

C) I am not asking if it is viable or not. YOu are correct if I planned on going to a tournament which no type 1 tourneys are played near me I would go copy Carl Winters Deck.

D) I like Dream Halls. It is amazingly broken. In case yo9u don't realize it Dream Halls is a Mana Maker to the fith level. Why pay 6 for a Bargain when you can discard a card?

I wonder what deck bulding concepts you think I am missing? Perhaps you are one of those people that think Lim Dul's Vault sucks too?

A: It's probably better to play a deck that is more easily budgetized if you don't have power: ex fish, FCG, etc, and for combo deck development pretend that you do have power.  (aside from that if you REALLY want to play combo, budget dragon is a good possibility in certain metas, but storm combo on a budget is simply quite a difficult prospect)

B: Really?

C: If the deck/idea isn't viable it belongs in Casual/Newbie not Open Vintage.

D: Dream halls costs 4 and lets you discard a card and use the halls to put out a 6 cc card.  Did anyone say "bad dark ritual'?  And if you rector out halls rector and halls both costs the same cc and u may as well have rectored out baragain (if it's in your hand you can brainstorm it back, and planning for the time when u have bargain in hand and can rector out something but not cast the bargain of brainstorm it back and wasting a slot on crappy dream halls for this sepcific circumstance is just crappy deck building.)

I have nothing against vault.  It's a good flexible card in dragon/TPS.  My comment on your lack of deckbuilding concepts was referring mainly to the inclusion of rector and lack of diruption, as well as the style of storm combo you were trying to build budget.  (also, fact or fiction doesn't really fit with storm combo also, except perhaps TPS as a whish drawer in the board)