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« on: September 22, 2004, 10:25:17 am »

So I've been talking with my friend Patch (Soupboy) and he and I came up with a really fun casual deck.

He's a huge proponent of the 250 format and he was telling me that the Black Bringer is banned in that format b/c of it's inherent brokenness. So why not do a deck in Type I that does the same.

So here's the premise for why it was banned in 250. You drop a Black Bringer. Next turn Tutor for Time Walk. Following turn, grab regrowth (for Time Walk), then say Relearn (for Time Walk), then a slew of Eternal Witnesses (all for Time Walk). There are enough recursion spells that getting your Time Walk back every turn is simple.

So now to convert that philosophy to type I. The best recursion spell is obviously: Yawg Will. Will can then be coupled with Burning Wish. One more recursion spell would be nice, so we'll add Regrowth for now.

Now the problem with bringing him to play. He's a 5 alt-cc casting cost, which will be extremely difficult to get.  So here's a fragile mana base to start with:

4x City of Brass
4x Gemstone Mine
4x Forbidden Orchard
4x Underground Sea
6x LotusMoxen
1x Lotus Petal
1x Mox Diamond
4x Pentad Prism

That's 28 mana sources, and is extremely susceptible to non-basic hate and null rod. The only alternative to this would be to do something like trying to achieve the necessary mana through Mana Drain mana. Not likely to happen, so for now, let's stick with this mana base.

Due to the necessity of having a Black Bringer in your first 8 cards (2nd turn bringer), playing 4 is a requirement. I'm also toying with playing 1 blue bringer, since a mini-ancestral isn't bad. So we'll start with those 5 creatures.

So the deck currently looks like this:

// Mana - 28
4x City of Brass
4x Gemstone Mine
4x Forbidden Orchard
4x Underground Sea
6x LotusMoxen
1x Lotus Petal
1x Mox Diamond
4x Pentad Prism

// Creatures - 5
4x Bringer of the Black Dawn
1x Bringer of the Blue Dawn

// "Combo" - also known as "good cards" - 4
1x Time Walk
1x Yawg Will
1x Regrowth
1x Burning Wish

37 cards so far. Let's add some draw and control:

// Draw - 8
4x Brainstorm (bad due to lack of pre-bringer shuffle effects)
1x Ancestral
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Vampiric Tutor
1x Impulse

// Control - 13
4x Force of Will
4x Mana Leak (or Mana Drain, but there is a significant lack of mana sinks)
3x Duress
2x Misdirection

That leaves 2 spots open. I'm thinking some sort of removal

// Removal - 2
2x Chain of Vapor (anyone got anything better for this spot?)

The Bringers seem like a good choice for a deck due to the lack of non-artifact-fat removal. There's Swords and Edict and not much else is seeing play right now.

So I'm looking for help with a few things.
First, the mana base. I'm aiming for all 5 colors. That right there says I'm going to have trouble regardless. Is there anything I can do to improve the mana base I'm using?

Second, I do a lot of damage to myself right now, and the Spirits from the Orchard contribute to this. But another 5 color land was needed.

Third, Bringer count. Should I add another Blue and cut a black? Or would it be wise just to add a 6th Bringer?

Lastly, removal. This isn't a combo deck, per se. It's more like aggro-control. So if something hits, I'm going to have trouble.

Any comments and insights would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2004, 11:46:35 pm »

My Bringer deck isn't T1 (it's my Mirroden Block Fun Deck), but I figure I would pass on some of what I learned.

2 each of White, Blue and Black Bringers are enough to have Bringer action in no time.

Coretappers, if you try them, can sac themselves to get two Charge counters on the Pentad Prisms, and once they get over summoning sickness are like little Black Lotuses for 3 different colors.  Pretty nifty.

Lastly, the White Bringers are a total lock with a Mindslaver, and that is no joke. Also, both are unrestricted.  

Lastly, I haven't tried Bringers in T1 yet (still doing that Salvager thing), but Pentad Prisms, Moxen and Basic Lands should be enough to get that BWURG stuff going on.

Good luck!
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