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« on: January 20, 2005, 10:32:17 pm » |
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Yavimaya Patriarch  {G}{G} Creature -- Elf Shaman 1/1  : Add one mana of any color to your mana pool. Return a land you control to its owner's hand: Untap Yavimaya Patriarch. *** I've made this as expensive as it is because at least for one turn, it's a one-sided Heartbeat of Spring. Even if you don't use it to its full extent by returning all of your [tapped] lands at once, it can be used to generate four mana very easily: tap a land for mana, tap this for mana, return that land to your hand to untap this, tap this for mana, replay the land and tap it for mana. I certainly think that merits the high mana cost. It might not be particularly useful as a mana accelerator then, but it would certainly still be good as a mana fixer. |
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2005, 10:32:38 pm » |
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Current Wording:
Yavimaya Patriarch
{2}{G}{G}
Creature -- Elf Shaman
1/3
{T}: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
Return a land you control to its owner's hand: Untap Yavimaya Patriarch.
"No tree is hallowed above the rest. For the good of Yavimaya, no sacrifice is too great."
--Fathnor, Yavimaya Patriarch
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2005, 03:29:50 am » |
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The cost is high for a mana producer but you argument justifying it is sound. Could the CC be 3G in order to make it more attractive as a mana fixer?
It might be more usable at 2G but with 'return an untapped land you control to your hand' as a cost. That still makes it better than good old Druid but limits the mana acceleration part of his ability, making him a more dedicated mana fixer.
I think I prefer the 4CC version as you can get some wacky mana from him!
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2005, 07:25:40 am » |
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Boring or perfect? (By the way, dandan, I'm still deliberating over changing his cost to  {G} -- maybe if I change the cost of his ability to "Return a forest you control...".) |
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2005, 10:44:07 am » |
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No real problems, he seems about on a level with Explosive Vegetation in terms of fixing/acceleration, and he conveniently costs the same  . If you kept him at 2GG it might be nice to make him a 1/3 so he can also act like a pseudo-vigilant attacker/blocker when his mana isn't needed. |
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2005, 07:02:37 pm » |
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Well it's not boring, so it must be perfect.
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2005, 07:05:23 pm » |
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I think that making it a 1/3 creature, as Nazdakka suggested, is just what was needed to perfect this card. That better justifies the double-green in his mana cost, so I think this is pretty much done. I'm going to start the 36 Hour Clock.
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2005, 10:15:14 pm » |
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Here are some flavor text ideas:
In times of emergency, the Patriarchs will exhaust the land to defend it.
The oldest farmers know all the tricks.
Our duty is not to any tree, but to Yavimaya itself. -NAME, Yavimaya Patriarch
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2005, 10:48:49 pm » |
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I like the last flavour text the most. I hope you don't mind if I try some variations of it.
"No single tree is hallowed, but the whole of Yavimaya is sacred."
--Fathnor, Yavimaya Patriarch
"No tree is hallowed above the rest. For the good of Yavimaya, no sacrifice is too great."
--Fathnor, Yavimaya Patriarch
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2005, 11:13:51 pm » |
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I really like the second one:
"No tree is hallowed above the rest. For the good of Yavimaya, no sacrifice is too great."
--Fathnor, Yavimaya Patriarch
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2005, 11:33:21 pm » |
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I was just trying to provide a couple of different potential approaches. I'm glad that you liked one and decided to improve on it.
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2005, 12:48:25 pm » |
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Closed and added.[/color]
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