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Author Topic: [Deck Discussion/Strategy/Viability] Vengeur Masque  (Read 1177 times)
akabane
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« on: December 28, 2004, 03:38:06 pm »

Hi, i want to show you a deck which i liked a lot: Vengeur Masque.

It has plus must-counters than simple Mask
It has plus must-counters than simple FEB

It has more protections

It has more utilities

...and i think it's the best deck that can pack the Masknought combo without having fear of a particular hate.

This is my actual list:

3 Windswept Heath
3 Wooded Foothills
4 Savannah
4 Tropical Island
2 Forest

4 Survival of the Fittest
4 Illusionary Mask
4 Phyrexian Dreadnought
4 Volrath's Shapeshifter
1 Squee, Goblin Nabob

4 Brainstorm
1 Sylvan Library

1 Enlightened Tutor
2 Swords to Plowshares

4 Force of Will
2 Meddling Mage

4 Birds of Paradise
3 Wall of Roots
2 Quirion Ranger

1 Gilded Drake
1 Tradewind Rider
1 Phage the Untouchable
1 Sylvan Safekeeper

My sideboard:

1 Meddling Mage
1 Gilded Drake
2 Swords to Plowshares
2 Misdirection
1 Sacred Ground
3 Seal of Cleansing
1 Devout Witness
2 Naturalize
2 Ground Seal

Manabase:
6 Fetchs: They optimize brainstorms and library, and they'll save you if the opponent is packing heavy nonbasic land destruction.

8 Duals:  Wink

2 Forests: I needed those 2 basic lands...maybe i want to add a third basic land, a plains. I mean, we have a little count of lands, i think a 17th land may be ok.

Combo Pieces:
8 Masknought: In this deck, we can also act like a mask. Put mask in play then smash your opponent with a great 12/12 trampler. In control matchups, mask is a great weapon...if it enters in play, we won't have any problem with his counters.

4 SotF: It's a great creature fetcher and deck thinner. It's the other combo piece with Mask, if they are both in play the game is over.

4 Volrath's Shapeshifter: It's a great card, it can helps if a drednought is destroyed, and with him in play we can also have our 12/12 without mask. Great "utility" card in this deck. With Phage it's the other finisher of the deck. Maybe 4 are heavy, but they are blue cards and they are very useful in many cases. If i have to cut one of them, i'll do it in favor of the 3rd Quirion or 3rd Meddling.

1 Squee: The first card to fetch with survival. It grants free creatures each turn and it's an eternal blocker.

4 Brainstorm: A must, it can trasform a horrible hand in a magic hand...and it's in synergy with fetchs.

1 Sylvan Library: Very very useful. Maybe the problem is that we can use it only the turn after it enters play, but it helps really a lot. Synergy with shuffles ^^

1 Enlightened Tutor: It takes Sotf/mask/nought/library/anythingelse. A must.

2 Stp: With a lot of decks packing TfC (TinkerForColossus) it's very useful, even if we have our 12/12 and gilded drake...

4 Fow: We have blue. We have a lot of blue cards. We don't have protection. Here it comes force of will

2 Meddling mage: Very very useful card. We can play it vs control naming cunning wish, mana drain and anything else you have in mind...it's also a 2/2 critter  Wink , and we can fetch it with sotf

4 bop: mana mana mana!! We need mana, and they provide us it.

3 Wall of Roots: mana mana mana!!! We need mana, and they provide us it even in opponent's turn for survival...

2 Quirion ranger: it's one of strongest card here...untaps nought if oppo's playing aggro, and it can do many numbers with tradewind rider.

1 Gilded Drake: Uff...it's up to you to find it's use Wink

1 Tradewind rider: If the situation is stalling, reset all and win! Useful vs control...very useful.

1 Phage: Opponent MUST die and he must die NOW.

1 Sylvan Safekeeper: I tried this card here and i didn't regret my choice. It often saves our dreadnoughts from opponent's threats, and also helps shifter...A++

The side is :

1 Meddling Mage<---control, combo
1 Gilded Drake<---oath, TfC
2 Swords to Plowshares<---aggro, oath
2 Misdirection<---control, some combo
1 Sacred Ground<---Smokestack
3 Seal of Cleansing<---oath, ws.dec, dragon
1 Devout Witness<---oath, ws.dec, dragon
2 Naturalize<---like above
2 Ground Seal<---dragon, welder.dec

This is my deck...my greatest problem is if i have to replace the 4th shapeshifter with 3° quirion or meddling...

I said my ideas, now it's up to you

Aka Very Happy

EDIT: I think that the card that replaces the 4th shifter may be an artifact/enchantement blaster, like devout witness maindeck...can it be?
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2004, 05:25:20 pm »

Don't you want an unblockable creature like Cephalid Inkshrouder or Akroma (amost unblockable) to force through Shapeshifter a.k.a. Phage?
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2004, 06:12:04 pm »

You most definately forgot to put flowstone hellion.

if you have a shapeshifter into play, discard the flowstone hellion to get haste, attack, put 10x the flowstone hellion +1/-1 ability on the stack, in response, discard phyrexian dreadnaught. Doesn't everyone like 20+ hasted tramplers Smile
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2004, 04:36:17 am »

@Negator13: Mmmh...really I don't need an plus-than-flying evasing creature, since i often use BoPs...

@Marton: Yes, I forgot it. It's a great card, used in old FEB...i like it, but what cut in MD? I cut the 4th Shapeshifter for a MD Devout Witness, i really need it. So i don't have free slots to put in hellion...what do you suggest??

Since i put MD the side-card devout witness, can a platinum angel substitute it in its sb slot?
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