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the boogie man
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« on: December 22, 2004, 11:24:25 pm »

3 forest
2 mountain
1 strip mine
4 wasteland
3 bayou
3 taiga
4 wooded foohills

1 black lotus
1 mox jet
1 mox ruby
1 mox emerald

2 squee, goblin nabob
4 birds of paradise
1 anger
1 uktabi orangutan
3 basking rootwalla
1 druid lyrist
4 juggernaut
1 razormane masticore
1 viridian zealot
1 goblin shaman
1 goblin welder

4 survival of the fittest
1 demonic tutor
1 living wish

3 duress
3 chains of mephistopheles
2 crucible of worlds

side:
2 blood moon
1 duress
2 null rod
1 mishras worksop
3 xantid swarms
1 goblin welder
1 veridian zealot
3 pyrostatic pillar

this is my most recent version of TnT, and it only uses one shop, and that is in the side. I am really This close to cutting the rootwallas, because its not enough bang for my 1 green mana. its really good when you have no other threats as a 1 drop, and its good when you have a survival out, so I have kept it. it is actually a really good win condition, but I wonder about the est of the ceatures, also.
   The workshop is in the side so that you dont ruin your mana base.
   Heer is another possible change. move something out f the side, but an orangutan in the side from the main, and put a scavenger folk in the main. and what about the other creatures and the mana base

comments? It's stil erlatively new, so don't burn too bad. This is for the guy that asked for a TnT list, and  you could easily remove the living wish and the workshop and toss in disruption, and bam, shop less.
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2004, 01:09:34 pm »

Your sideboard appears to contain a Living Wish toolbox, but you have only 1 Living Wish.

You have scrambled your manabase into a bizarre cacophony in order to accomodate a single black spell, Chains of Mephistopheles, which isn't even really that great unless you expect a ton of Tog and 4cc.

You have Druid Lyrist, the slowest enchantment removal of all time.  This is not to say that it is not the best creature in your colors for this task (Viridian Zealot, which you also run, is clearly too costly), but rather to say that Lyrist is too slow to matter against Oath and Oath of Druids is really the only enchantment worth tutoring for a 1/1 to destroy.

In short, the deck seems confused about what it wants to do and is not nearly streamlined enough.  Without Mishra's Workshops, and with only 1 Goblin Welder MD, it is certainly difficult to justify playing the likes of Duplicant, Triskelion, and Sundering Titan.  Unfortunately, these cards are some of the best reasons to play TnT in the first place!  Please give me something to recommend this over the Workshop version or, alternatively, over any other 5-proxy (which is a stretch given your use of Chains) deck such as Madness or Doomsday.
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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2004, 02:48:31 pm »

You say shopless, yet you have a Shop in the sideboard as a target for your lone Living Wish. Besides that, how can you hope to win if Survival or Welder gets countered? Other builds ran Eternal Witness for that very reason. Also, you have no card drawing and only 1 tutor. Considering that, it would seem that your late game would be very weak. Furthermore, why on Earth do yo run 2 Squees? The only time that you'd be able to use Squee would be with Survival, and then there would be no reson to have more than one. Also, why don't you have Sundering Titan, Platinum Angel, Duplicant or Triskelion maindeck or sideboard? The only reason not to run Workshop in TnT would be opening up more green mana to use Survival to get them in play. Finally, why the Basking Rootwallas? Wouldn't those slots work better with something like Eternal Witnesses or Sundering Titan, Platinum Angel, Duplicant or Triskelion?
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