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Author Topic: [DECK] Italian Gay Red Fish - looking for advice  (Read 14019 times)
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« Reply #60 on: November 21, 2004, 11:23:00 am »

Siding out Creatures, leaving in the Mishra's Factory and maybe Conclaves.
Siding in Rebs, Annull's, Bouncers and Spawning Pits.

Fish would transform itself in a "vacuum deck"**** exactly as Oath is.

Of course, the same sideboarding tecnique should be used by all the decks that could side in all those cards...



**** Vacuum Deck = Lands, Drawers, Counters, Almost no real Winners
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« Reply #61 on: November 21, 2004, 12:34:56 pm »

That would be the best solution but leave Spiketails. Notice they can always sacrifice to counter a spell, which in case your opponent does cast an Oath Of Druids sucessfully you can use it's effect anyways.
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« Reply #62 on: November 21, 2004, 06:15:05 pm »

Quote from: MaxxMatt
Siding out Creatures, leaving in the Mishra's Factory and maybe Conclaves.
Siding in Rebs, Annull's, Bouncers and Spawning Pits.

Fish would transform itself in a "vacuum deck"**** exactly as Oath is.

Of course, the same sideboarding tecnique should be used by all the decks that could side in all those cards...



**** Vacuum Deck = Lands, Drawers, Counters, Almost no real Winners


Sounds like a good plan except I don't think Spawning Pit is the optimal hoser for fish. You dont have Welder to abuse it, so maybe something like Goblin Bombardment would be a better choice?
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« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2004, 07:22:20 pm »

Claws Of Gix? (think thats the name) Would be better as it costs 0, but then the deck does lose a considerable clock.
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« Reply #64 on: February 16, 2005, 09:16:50 am »

After the arrive of Oath.dec in our meta I think there are some strategies:

a) run&beat: We try to kill the opponent as soon as possible, beating with creatures and factories (for the first game the best choise).

b) Control the Game: we play a control game (in my opinion this isn't the right choise)

After the first game we have to side; we have some cards may be useful:

a) spawning pit 6.25/10
b) claw of gix 4/10
c) extract 7+/10
d) waterfront bouncer 6/10
e) gilded drake 5/10
f) goblin bombardment 7/10
g) annul 7-8/10
h) maze of ith 5/10

a) Spawning pit 6.25/10

this artifact may be a good choice, because we can sacrifice token spirit charging a counter on Pit. At the end of the oppo's turn we make creatures for a beatdown and at the end of our turn we sacrifice them and we watch non triggering oppo's oath.

b) Claw of Gix 4/10

this artifact requires an activation cost, paying a colorless mana and sacrifice a creature to gain one life. I think spawning pit is better than this.

c) Extract 7+/10

with this we can remove the finisher(s) from the game, and win the game with normal beatdown. We must play extract covered by FOW or daze+spiketail for the max utility.

d) Waterfront Bouncer 6/10

if oppo does not has morphling or Iridescent Angel this a great creature for side. This is really beautiful also with gorger.dec or tpc (tinker per colossus)

e) Gilded Drake 5/10

as the Wtf Bouncer, this is a strong card if oppo doesn't plays Morpho or Iridescent, and it is also great with tpc but not gorger.dec.

f) Goblin Bombardment 7/10

this enchantment works making a damage for each creature sacrified to a target.
This is better than S. Pit because we can play null rod at the same time we play this, instead with S. Pit we can't use the ability for our strategy.

g) Annul 7-8/10

Great card, powerful! We can counter oath @ first turn, and also Black Lotus, moxes, pernicious, E.E.... This is the card we would have on hand all first turns!

h) maze of ith 5/10

Good card... But maybe useful with untargettable creatures?

After this, I can make a top8 sideboarding cards:

1 Annul 7-8/10
2 Extract 7+/10
3 goblin bombardment 7/10
4 spawning pit 6.25/10
5 waterfront bouncer 6/10
6 maze of ith 5/10
7 gilded drake 5/10
8 claw of gix 4/10

What you think about? Have you got others ideas or opinion?

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« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2005, 10:15:12 am »

Don't revive threads from last year. Start a new one instead. Closed.
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