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« on: March 29, 2005, 09:37:30 pm » |
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Exalted Knight
WW
Creature - Knight
First Strike
Whenever ~this~ deals damage, gain that much life.
2/2
*Flavor text*
Current text:
Order of the Golden Lion
1WW
Creature - Knight
First Strike
Whenever ~this~ deals damage, gain that much life.
2/1
Holy power imbues his sword,
The will of Serra guides his arm.
To the wicked he deals a just reward
And guards the innocent from harm.
Now I know I didn't come up with this and I don't remember where I saw it, but I thought it would be a solid creature for the list. Are we allowed to use others card ideas?
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2005, 09:44:16 pm » |
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If we trust Wizards to cost things correctly at all, this card is savagely undercosted. See [card]Horned Cheetah[/card] from Invasion. It is a lesser card in that it doesn't have first strike, but it costs a lot more --  , plus it's gold. I'm not saying that it's appropriately costed. Invasion was four or five years ago (egad, how time flies) but this is still a drastic change from the nearest comparable card. |
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2005, 10:03:09 pm » |
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perhaps if i lowered to 2/1 and made it combat damage to a player?
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2005, 10:23:42 pm » |
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Built in Spirit Link on creatures is expensive, but Horned Cheetah is overcosted. This needs to be 3 mana or not have first strike, though.
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2005, 11:35:32 pm » |
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Another way to make this stay at the same cost would be to change it to reverse spirit link. "Whenever this is dealt damage". Being first strike that will only happen from burn spells or when its blocked by something with 3 or more toughness. This way you could keep soem of its flavour and have it remain WW. Pro-Black and Pro-Red are about equivelant to reverse spirit link on this creature so its about right.
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2005, 02:04:04 am » |
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upped cost after some suggestions
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2005, 12:39:27 pm » |
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I think this is now powerful for its mana cost, but not beyond reason. It is stronger than [card]Kitsune Blademaster[/card], [card]Chieften en-Dal[/card], and probably [card]Knight of Dawn[/card], but that doesn't mean it's unprintable. Given the power level of our sets, it could probably still be an uncommon and not be ridiculous.
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2005, 01:20:32 pm » |
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This is obviously very good, but Leonin Skyhunter, Samurai of the Pale Curtain, White/Silver Knight, etc. etc. are all on the same power level. White gets top quality small creatures, and this is a top quality small creature. The name is ok, just a bit generic - how about 'Knight of the Heavens', with flavour text suggesting a spiritual-type connection. You could also make him a Templar or Paladin, those names suggest more of a spiritual-type character.
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2005, 03:48:43 pm » |
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I like Knight of the Heavens. For creature type, Northern Paladin was reprinted as a Knight so Wizards is clearly trying to phase out Paladin as a creature type. I like the idea of making this guy more spiritual- perhaps "Knight Cleric" would be a good creature type?
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2005, 04:34:50 pm » |
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I like Knight of the Heavens but not the Cleric addition. Anyone else have thoughts on Knight of the Heavens or is this name fine?
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2005, 07:15:04 pm » |
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Now I know I didn't come up with this and I don't remember where I saw it, but I thought it would be a solid creature for the list. Are we allowed to use others card ideas? I don't know what you mean by this, you posted an Exalted Angel or Warrior Angel with First Strike instead of Flying and with a lower power/toughness. Or, as suggested, an undercosted Horned Cheetah or Zebra Unicorn. That said, I was going to post the following card (the idea struck me while playing with Exalted Angel) before you beat me to it: Divine Agent WW Creature – Cleric 2/2 Whenever Divine Agent deals damage, you gain that much life. I went the Cleric route, although Knight is a perfectly acceptable creature type for this card. While researching Gatherer I determined that WW was too low of a cost for a 2/2 with this abilty, based on Horned Cheetah and Zebra Unicorn (both Gold cards), and Doubtless One (variable power/toughness, but a 1/1 for 3W without other Clerics in play). I didn't even add First Strike to my card because I knew First Strike + Spirit Link would be a kick ass combination, and although Protection from Black (White Knight) and Protection from Red (Silver Knight) are arguably better against certain deks, I didn't think it compared to the Spirit Link ability (therefore, I couldn't just use a White Knight/Silver Knight body and replace the Pro Red/Pro Black with Spirit Link). I could have lowered my card's power/toughness to 1/1 (which I wasn't fond of) or raise the casting cost. Making it a 2/1 was another option, as was making the Spirit Link an activated abilty for W (Like First Strike on Order of Leitbur/ Order of the White Shield). The "reverse spirit link" Fall-Titan suggested appears on Pious Warrior, but I don't like this suggestion very much. You want a full Spirit Link on a creature like this. I also don't like "combat damage to a player". My card ended up looking like this: Divine Agent 3W Creature – Cleric 2/2 Whenever Divine Agent deals damage, you gain that much life. I might be able to get away with 1WW, but I wanted to stay away from that casting cost. However, I think your card could be: Card Name 1WW Creature -- Knight Whenever ~this~ deals damage, you gain that much life. 2/2 I'm not fond of the names "Exalted Knight" or "Knight of the Heavens", but I think the names "Pious Templar" or "Divine Champion" are fitting. |
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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2005, 08:20:14 pm » |
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i'm still looking for suggestions for the name and also, taking into account your change, would lowering it's toughness to 1 make it more fair. I figured it would because it's more susceptible to burn and can be killed by a 1/3 or better early creature (I'm thinking in terms of limited). If we look at Youthful Knight, that is a 2/1 First Strike. Since Sprit link costs W, adding the ability would make a 2/1 First Strike Spirit Linker for 1WW, which is what I was aiming to change. That sound more fair?
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2005, 05:29:37 pm » |
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as for flavor text, I was thinking something like... With such power imbued in his sword,
His enemies always ask the magic word.
"Please spare us good sir", the enemies ask,
But he ignores their repeated pleas and attacks.I just made this up, too.  |
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2005, 05:53:02 pm » |
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Holy power imbues his sword,
The will of Serra guides his arm.
To the wicked he deals a just reward
And guards the innocent from harm.
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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2005, 06:04:19 pm » |
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Yeah that sounds more magic-like.
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« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2005, 01:33:47 pm » |
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About the name: I prefer all three of the alternative names suggested so far to 'Exalted Knight'. Anyone else got a view?
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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2005, 03:45:15 pm » |
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"Divine Agent" is a good name but more suited to an angel or cleric, neither of which have a real good reason to have first strike.
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2005, 04:07:56 pm » |
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how about Knight of the Heavens or Divine Knight?
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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2005, 07:06:55 pm » |
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You could make it a Cleric *and* a Knight, you know. That's what Paladins are.
How about The Order of *something* for a name?
Order of the Sacred Torch
Order of the Silver Lance
Order of the White Lion
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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2005, 08:28:37 pm » |
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I like order of the white lion. Anyone else have thoughts on those names?
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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2005, 09:39:32 pm » |
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[card]Order of the Sacred Torch[/card] already exists, so my vote goes to Order of the White Lion. It will remain a knight, in that case, correct?
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« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2005, 09:57:30 pm » |
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"White Lion" sounds redundant on a white card. What about "Order of the Crimson Lion" or some other cool sounding color?
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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2005, 12:55:20 pm » |
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i see wat u mean about redundancy.
Order of the Crimson Lion
Order of the Ages
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Guardian of the Meek
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Knight of the Sacred Order
just some ideas i had.
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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2005, 06:19:35 pm » |
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I think it would have to be Golden if it were another color.
Although Knights don't have a history of subtle names (Black Knight/White Knight/Order of the White Shield)
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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2005, 11:17:52 pm » |
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This card seems fair. Playability and fairness don't always see eye-to-eye, mind...
Anyways, this is too small to be an Angel, going by RnD's current thoughts for Angels. Angels are iconic, large, white creatures with flying. Beyond that, typical abilities are Vigilance, Protection and/or First Strike.
Clerics, on the other hand, don't have first strike (aside from Ancestor's Chosen), but do get cool abilities, including life gain.
The spirit link ability isn't that common, so it's hard to say what creature type it should be. Perhaps a Cleric Soldier?
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« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2005, 07:36:25 pm » |
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Name change
24 Hour Clock
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« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2005, 09:30:46 am » |
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Closed and added.[/color]
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