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« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2005, 10:36:28 pm »

Supposedly they were casting for "Wanted" a while back, that would be tight.  Preacher is a definate must make comic to movie.
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« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2005, 12:34:05 am »

I hate Preacher the comic book, but it would be perfect for a movie (remember how good preacher Vol 1 was, and then how quickly it went downhill)>  Vampires, God, Love.  What more could you ask for.

I think Sandman is too ambitious to do.  Watchmen is definitely doable.  I think one of the most interesting conecepts would be Midnight Nation. 
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« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2005, 08:02:09 am »

Hellboy was pretty bad.  Sin City is far and above the best comic book movie made, and Batman Begins is next.  I love the Spidey movies, but Batman is just such an amazing character, and the cast in the movie is simply incredible.  Anything with Morgan Freeman in it automatically gets a leg up on the competition.

OMG You forgot Cat Woman! It was by far the best comic book movie of all time ... [/sarcasm]

And who could forget about the first batman movie?
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« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2005, 09:05:06 am »

laugh it up. i own that batman movie on dvd.

"somedays you just cant get rid of a bomb."

classic.

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« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2005, 09:12:21 am »

is the definition of best based on how accurate it conveys the comic book character.
sin city is perfect to this because frank miller didnt want anyone to change anything about it and so was a guest director on the film.
i think all of the batman movies dont really capture the essence that is batman very well except for this new one. it is by far the best of the bunch.
one movie that has not been discussed is hulk. yes the movie was absolute garbage, but if you look at the character hulk, since he is all cgi, they could do what ever they needed him to do. falling from the upper atmosphere off a jet into the san fransisco bay and getting out alive is super cool and representative of hulks actual behavior.
hulk-horrible bad movie
hulk-extremely accurate to the comics
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« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2005, 10:59:08 am »

laugh it up. i own that batman movie on dvd.

"somedays you just cant get rid of a bomb."

classic.

j

Oh man, that whole scene is great.  He can't get away from "the band" (the fat dude with the tuba and other dude with the drum), and when he tries to throw the bomb in the lake, there's ducks.  Man, the whole thing is soooo ridiculous!

Better yet, this
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Robin: "A sparrow with a machine gun!"
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« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2005, 11:11:37 am »

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« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2005, 11:34:23 am »

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« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2005, 12:05:48 pm »

No.

As a Batman fan, I particularly enjoyed the first hour of Begins, but it pretty much went downhill from there. It's still far better than most comic-book adaptions, but I'll definitely go for Sin City as the best of the bunch. Probably X-men in the second spot, Batman Begins on three, and Spidey somewhere high up, too.

There must be some obscure one I forgot about. An adaption of some artsy european adult comic book or something Smile

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« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2005, 01:45:16 pm »

How could I forget about the horror of DareDevil. That is one of the worst movies I have ever seen. Affleck should stick to making himself ridiculous in great Jay & Silent Bob movies.

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« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2005, 05:12:43 pm »

How could I forget about the horror of DareDevil. That is one of the worst movies I have ever seen.

Y'know those aren't Ben Affleck's real abs.


I haven't been one to read comic books or graphic novels aside from The Crow back when I was 16-ish, but I was a big fan of the first and second Batman movies (the Tim Burton ones). I found myself questioning my fannitude when they got rid of Michael Keaton and replaced the dirty, sinister look of Gotham City with neon lights. Then they went and turned decent actors (Tommy Lee Jones) into jackasses. Yes, I thought the "Batman Forever" was crap, although I forced myself to sit through it in denial that they had ruined one of my favorite franchises. Then a couple of years later, I sat down to watch "Batman and Robin" hoping that they might have seen the error of their ways. Wrong. WRONG! I only made it through the credits and the first 180 seconds of it. Seeing Batman randomly pull out a snowboard whilst skydiving from an airplane to do battle with Mr. Freeze (ugh!) was too much. I couldn't take it anymore. It was so stupid and terrible that it gave me goosebumps; I had to pound the eject button on my VCR repeatedly. For the record, this is the ONLY movie that I've ever turned off without finishing in my life. To this day, I still haven't watched any more of it. When I see it on the TV at someone's house, I leave the room. "Batman and Robin" makes me think of this, and I wish it would cease to exist.

With that in mind, I think that "Batman Begins" is probably THE BEST comic-book-movie. But wait...I've never even read a Batman comic book, so how can I say that? Well, it was an amazing movie, independent of whatever comic book it's based on. Think about it. If you knew nothing about the Batman comic books, would it make sense to you anyway? Would it be believeable or silly and goofy? Would you be disappointed about having spent your five bux to see it?

Now I saw "Sin City" and it was solid, but I'm guessing it would have been better if I had some knowledge of the subject beforehand. This wasn't the case with "Batman Begins". Plus this one had really good actors in it, not to say that Jack Nicholson and Michael Keaton aren't good actors, but c'mon...how can you NOT love the dude from "American Psycho"? How can he NOT be the perfect Batman?

And for those of you who say that it was boring, I'm pooty sho the next one is going to be all action. I think they were just using this one to avoid plot holes instead of making the same mistake that the first one did: "Wait...how did Batman's parents die? Eh...we'll just say the Joker killed them; ten minutes ought to be good enough to explain Batman's history."
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« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2005, 03:57:43 am »

"Wait...how did Batman's parents die? Eh...we'll just say the Joker killed them; ten minutes ought to be good enough to explain Batman's history."

so yea, how does that fit in with the new batman series. Are we basically looking at a different universe?
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« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2005, 04:02:46 am »

Pretty much. Begins kind of ignores all the other Batman movies.
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« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2005, 11:08:17 am »

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I get the basic catwoman idea.  I've read enough seen enough to know of her struggle etc etc.  i wasn't really confused by that.  It was the died and given life by cats angle that I didn't understand.  I never thought that was her origin I don't think it is

Like you i haven't really read many comics on Catwomen but if this has nothing to do with her orgin it would be a little strange. I dont know if you ever saw Batman Returns with Micheal Phiffer (obviously not as hot as Halle but damn she was so much better then Halle) as Catwomen. In that one she also "dies" and gets reanimated by cats.

To echo everyone else I'll agree that Sin City is probably the best. Personally I think the "Original" keaton batman simply titled Batman with Jack Nicolson as the joker and Kim Bessigner as Vicci Vale was quite good and probably the best bubble gum comic adaption.

I never saw the appeal in the Spiderman movies I thought they were both pretty terrible with Willem Dafoe redeaming the first one a bit. The first X-Men movie was quite good the second not so much (I like seeing mutants fight mutants not mutants easily defeating "normal" humans.)

Lastly I dont know what exactly it is that the average comic book fan looks for in a movie but personally i thought The Hulk was rather good. I'll admit that the director(Ang Lee) had no prior expierence with comic book moveis as he seams to want to do movies in every different genre. He's failed before (Ride with the Devil) but hes also done some excellant work (Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, a very well casted Sense and Sensiblity and critically aclaimed early work like the Ice storm and Eat Drink Man Women.) For a multitalented director I say its a mistake to dismiss the Hulk as trash. Sure its slow, but it dose sitck to the comics and tells the basic backround of all the relavent characters.
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« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2005, 05:18:34 pm »

hmm..Id have to agree with the Sin City nod...pretty f-ing great...

I guess im still weird in that I like the first of the modern Batman movies the best of the bunch (Jack as the Joker is just great) but the movies in between Batman and Batman Begins were all pretty awful...

I really hated Spiderman 2...sorry, but it just really didnt do it for me. Although I will have to say that Daredevil is the worst of the bunch so far (although I havnt seen catwoman based on terrible reviews, heh)
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« Reply #45 on: November 12, 2005, 05:30:46 pm »

Elektra was clearly the worst of the lot.
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« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2005, 07:42:37 pm »

somehow I find Daredevil to still be signifigantly worse than Elektra, although Elektra isnt too far behind...
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« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2005, 08:03:20 pm »

Elektra was clearly the worst of the lot.

Oh man, I have to watch that tonight ...
I actually bought this at a yard sale the other day ... it was 2 bucks on DVD ...
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It's like that time my buddy bought 10 really bad sealed Pr0n DVDs for 20 bucks!
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« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2005, 08:58:19 pm »

Hellboy was worse than either Elektra or Daredevil.  Though at this level we're really just comparing three different turds.
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« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2005, 10:18:22 pm »

Heh, true...

However I would place Hellboy slightly (slightly) higher than either simply due to HB actually entertaining me at one or two points...the others were just awful the whole way through...I give Elektra a slightly higher nod because Looking at Jennifer Garner portray a superhero poorly is better than watching Ben Aflek portray a superhero poorly. (I do realize that for some people on this site, the opposite might hold true...heh)
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« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2005, 03:00:39 am »

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I actually bought this at a yard sale the other day ... it was 2 bucks on DVD ...

Oh, thats a good deal. Garner is really hot some of the time in Elektra. It doesn't justify buying a ticket to the movies, but 2 bucks for it on DVD is just fine Smile

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I'll have to disagree with that. If anything, Ron Perlman was in it, which makes it cool almost by default. Also, it had a layer of sarcasm entirely (and unjustly) absent in both Elektra and Daredevil. The fact that imdb recurring users award Hellboy with a 6.7 out of 10 whereas Elektra and Daredevil get, respectively, a 5.1 and a 5.6, counts for something in my opinion...at least it means that more people share my opinion.
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« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2005, 06:24:29 am »

I'll have to disagree with that. If anything, Ron Perlman was in it, which makes it cool almost by default.

And don't forget that David Hyde Pierce is also in there (albeit only his voice, but still).
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« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2005, 09:55:03 am »

Hellboy was worse than either Elektra or Daredevil.  Though at this level we're really just comparing three different turds.

I went to see Daredevil in theatre ...
I hated that movie so much ...
The part that got my goat the most was the fact that "banging" on metal caused him to lose his perception, but the fact he cranks up the volume at the beginning, and the song is CRAZY loud, has no effect on him ... (Yes I'm picky)


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« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2005, 10:25:48 am »

If you use Rotten Tomatos instead of IMDb, Hellboy gets a 79% (meaning that 79% of its reviews were good reviews), Daredevil gets 44%, and Elektra gets a paltry 7%.
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« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2005, 12:51:48 pm »

While not a comic adaptation, if you want to see the worst movie ever, see Scarecrow Gone Wild.  It's so bad it's good.
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« Reply #55 on: November 13, 2005, 01:54:48 pm »

While not a comic adaptation, if you want to see the worst movie ever, see Scarecrow Gone Wild.  It's so bad it's good.

Then you should definately watch Kung-Pow as well. If you like movies that are so bad that they are good that is.
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