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« on: March 21, 2006, 03:41:40 am »

SCG Richmond. Finally, I got to attend on of these, and it was a blast. I had a great time. I haven’t had the chance to play this game all that much lately because of grad school devouring my time. I wasn’t even planning to attend this tournament, but I realized on Wednesday that I would feel really bad if I didn’t go to it. At home in Massachusetts for Spring Break, I decided to go. Brass Man agreed to give me a ride down and a place to crash there. JD offered me a ride back. And so, I went.

The trip down was with Brassman, Nefarious, and T00L. We spent quite a large portion of the ride discussing Magic theory, and another large portion discussing the best way to construct Slaver and Gifts. Brassman drove for around ten hours, all while making brilliant observations about Type One control decks. I wish I had his insight.

Once there, we met up with some friends, and worked on lists for the next day. Among them was Outlaw, who would like you to know that he has a girlfriend. There comes a point when my ideas get really awful, right around when I become too tired to think rationally. After being talked out of running Predict and Spark Spray by Brassman, I constructed the following deck.

Mana
5 Moxen
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
4 Volcanic Island
2 Underground Sea
2 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta
3 Island
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Library of Alexandria

Permission
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain

Draw
4 Brainstorm
4 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Fact or Fiction

Engine
3 Goblin Welder
2 Mindslaver
1 Triskelion
1 Darksteel Colossus

Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Demonic Tutor

Broken
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Tinker
1 Time Walk

Metagame/Control
1 Echoing Truth
1 Fire/Ice
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Rack & Ruin

SB:
1 Pyroblast
1 Red Elemental Blast
2 Rack & Ruin
2 Ensnaring Bridge
2 Duress
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Lava Dart
2 Massacre
3 Chalice of the Void

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If I have your Ensnaring Bridge, please PM me. Sorry I forgot to return it before going to Indiana.

On the decklist:
While I did predict Gifts, Control Slaver, and Workshops, I incorrectly guessed that there would be quite a few Confidants and Akromas running around. The Fire/Ice was there to stop Wizards as well as Goblins. And as for Tormod’s Crypt, if you’d like to understand why I run that card, just read any of the many posts I’ve made about it since last June. Merchant Scroll was strong. It leveraged the control elements and the permission elements of the deck, while allowing me to get Ancestral Recall or Thirst for Knowledge. In the end, it seemed better than including Gifts Ungiven in the deck because it is useful when you have very little mana in play. Staring at a bunch of expensive, uncastable cards in your hand happens with Control Slaver, and adding another four drop wouldn’t help all that much.

My memory isn’t that great, so I won’t go into individual matchups. My one loss in the swiss was against Hi-Val. I got MeanKicked. (No, I'm positive I wasn't actually drop kicked). After convincing Hi-Val not to concede, while making his Gifts deck “go off” under Slaver, the person sitting next to me noticed that my Tinker was under his boot. That wasn’t very wonderful. After that I piled my deck in six piles before every game. I'm just glad I didn't drop any pieces of power under someone's boot.

Overall, while I didn’t play against Combo or Oath, there were plenty of Control Slaver and Gifts decks. I even played against Red/White Sligh, BS, and Ophidian in the swiss.

In the top eight, I faced Outlaw with Gifts. Outlaw is starting to clean up around New England in my absence. And, he wanted me to mention that he has a girlfriend. We had quite an epic battle, but I won in the end.

In the semi-finals, I played against Force Field You with Control Slaver, a variation that he likes to call “Burning Slaver.” It was an epic battle of Gorilla Shaman against Library of Alexandria, and Brian drew a lot of cards but didn’t find much. In the second game, I believe, Brian tapped out on his turn to cast a draw spell, and I went off and won.

I faced Samite Healer in the finals. Samite is a great player, but I managed to win a close two games.

That night, we went to Denny’s for dinner. There is something wrong with any restaurant that has guards posted at the doors to keep you inside until you’ve paid. Really adds to the atmosphere. As I posted in Brian’s report, my table ended up waiting a good 45 minutes for our food. And it came out not all at once, but in bits and pieces. So, when it all arrived, it was cold. And my milkshake wasn’t too great. I brought up the matter to the waitress, who informed me that our order had been “lost.” I spoke with two people behind the counter, and was told that we might be entitled to free drinks, but couldn’t have the meals paid for. I appealed to the head judge – I asked for the manager. She was polite, and after I explained the situation to her, she agreed that we shouldn’t be charged for the meal. Just before we left, as we were gathering our coats, our waitress was complaining about us within our earshot, saying that waiting for forty-five minutes wasn’t that bad a wait. And so we saved money further by not leaving a tip.

Having about two hours of sleep, we headed back to the tournament center for the second day. I made sure to get a good breakfast with T00L. If you learn nothing else from this report, remember that eating a big, good breakfast will do more for you in a tournament than fixing the 60th card in your deck just right. Too tired for anything like “thinking,” I played the same list as the day before. Randy was playing Grim Long, and was my first round opponent. Randy did the whole “Stack Demonic Tutor, Sacrifice LED, Get Yawgwill, Cast Yawgwill” play. I responded by using Tormod’s Crypt.

However, this tournament didn’t go so well for me. Evenpence beat me with Uba Stax. In the first game, his first turn Workshop into Trinisphere made me pitch my only draw spell to Force, and left me with a hand that didn’t work so well. A few Wastelands and we were on the second game. In the second game, Force of Nature once again had ruined my manabase by his second turn. I had a chance one turn if I drew a mox, but didn’t, and became buried under a Crucible lock.

My other matchloss was to Steve. It went to three games, but two of those games involved my not getting a turn. Chalice of the Void and Duress and Tormod’s Crypt are all perfectly good cards against Grim Long, but not so good if you don’t step foot inside your mainphase. Steve played the “many amazing cards” in his hand well, and mainphases became nothing more than a dream for me. As did making another top eight.

Then is when the fun began. Several of us went out to dinner at a diner. Randy Bueller went with us. Despite his awesome position of authority in the Magic world, it turns out that Randy is a great guy to hang out with. He really has a passion and love for the game. After that we did a single-elimination draft with Randy. I won, using awful cards in my deck. Anyone who knows my draft style won’t be surprised to learn that I had a Blue/White deck with double Rune Boggle. And a Remand. And six defenders. And about three cards that were actually capable of winning the game.

Then, as Brassy, Nefarious, T00L, and myself went back to the car, we learned that the garage we parked in had decided to close. And heavy metal gates prevented our entry. So, we waited in a nearby hotel lobby and slept for an hour. When I woke up, I learned that Brass Man had gone off to find a security guard to get into the garage. And so, back at our hotel, I slept for an hour before Brass Man again drove me to JD’s hotel, from which I got a ride home.

I’m really happy I went to this. I got a chance to see people I haven’t seen in a while, and had a great time playing. The Type One community is wonderful, and something I’m very happy to be a part of.

Props:
JD: for arranging a ride back for me back into the Cornfields of Indiana.

Tormod’s Crypt: for beating every deck that Meandeck makes Smile

Jacob: For donating an Orange to me. An artifact Orange, of course.

My Opponent in the Last Round of the Side Event: He let me have some packs, despite my being in bad shape against him. Thank you.

Breakfast: for making people better at playing Magic.

The Type One community: For being Awesome.

SCG: For putting on a great event.

Finally, Brassman -- his Magic theory is top-notch. Moreover, without a single word of complain, Brassman spent twelve hours behind the wheel of a Goblin War Wagon, arranged for me to get a place to crash, got a locked-up car out of a lot in frigid weather, and woke up early Monday to drive me to where JD was. Massive Props.

I’ll give myself slops for not remembering to take match notes. Hopefully, next time I will so I can write a more in-depth report.

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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2006, 06:17:47 am »

Rich, I told you at Richmond and I'll tell you now:  You're once of the nicest guys I've ever played, and I'm honored to have won a game against you.  I'm so glad that you won the Lotus, and really hoped that you would have top 8ed day 2.  I feel bad that you didn't because of me.  But really it wasn't.  It was because of that evil guy Smennen.  We should egg his house.

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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2006, 08:30:43 am »

But you said that you'd never go below 4 welders...
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2006, 09:06:33 am »

Rich, I told you at Richmond and I'll tell you now:  You're once of the nicest guys I've ever played, and I'm honored to have won a game against you.  I'm so glad that you won the Lotus, and really hoped that you would have top 8ed day 2.  I feel bad that you didn't because of me.  But really it wasn't.  It was because of that evil guy Smennen.  We should egg his house.

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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2006, 10:58:43 am »

Then, as Brassy, Nefarious, T00L, and myself went back to the car, we learned that the garage we parked in had decided to close. And heavy metal gates prevented our entry. So, we waited in a nearby hotel lobby and slept for an hour. When I woke up, I learned that Brass Man had gone off to find a security guard to get into the garage. And so, back at our hotel, I slept for an hour before Brass Man again drove me to JD’s hotel, from which I got a ride home.

This happened to me at Gencon 2001 - I went up for the Thursday type 1 tournament, was going to play until midnight then go back to Chicago for work on Friday, then go up Friday night for the weekend tournaments.  I guess the garage next to the con also closed at midnight and I was left up all night at the convention center until the garage opened at 5am.  I feel your pain.
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2006, 11:02:10 am »

Great job, Rich! Good to see you went to the event and stole the whole thing.

so yeah, three welders huh?
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2006, 11:07:47 am »

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I cut a Welder, and then I lose a match to Stax for the first time in a long time.
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2006, 11:08:08 am »

Congrats, Rich! It was great to see you again, and awesome to see Control Slaver dominate pretty much the whole weekend.
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2006, 11:32:12 am »

Congratz.  I wish I knew you were going I would have went outta my way to make sure id be there.

Hope you can make it to NY June 3rd for the double in Rocester so we can play again.

Ensarning Bridge?  I never liked it since it stops welders from beating?  What did it come in against?  and would you run it again?

Why did you change Vamp to Mystical?  Wouldn't the Crypt Main make Vamp the better choice?

Merchant Scroll Is solid if you have Fire/Ice main.  Anytime I used Scroll without Fire/Ice I hated it.

Why run DSC?  Was this a Metagame pick or is it some new shay tech.  I never found myself needing to Win faster.  Pentavus would have been amazing against the stax player you lost too.  any thoughts on that.

No basic swamp for the Massacres.  Makes me sad.  This Card Rules Im glad other people are using them too.  U/W Dies to this.

Was there that much combo that made you want 2 Duress and 3 Chalice of the void or do Chailce go in against other decks as well?

Solid list and great job  hope you come back so we can do some testing and hit up some mox tournaments.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2006, 11:43:55 am »

Ensarning Bridge?  I never liked it since it stops welders from beating? 
That makes no sense. You draw your card for the turn, attack with your 1/1s, and then play that card if you need to. The only time it stops Welder beats is if it makes them keep blockers up.
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2006, 11:55:06 am »

Re Jacob: Thats true I was on a Labtop and it kept deleting everything I typed so I tried to keep it short.  That didn't work out to well.

More on bridge: I'm guessing you got the idea from Andy but with my testing in both decks, Its good in Brassmans Gifts list because he doesn't need to swing for the win, he can set up Flame/Vault and kill the opponent.  CS needs to Swing with Creatures.  This can stall for time but against Oath wouldn't a Aether Spellbomb have done the job as well if not better.  This cost 3 Mana to get on the Board and I know you can weld it but in all situations Spellbomb getting welded is usually Game since they should never get the mana to hard cast their Creatures.

Was bridge just for the Oath matchup or did it have a second purpose(Was Workshop aggro Around?) cause if it was suppose to hit multiple decks then its probably better but it never seems like something Slaver would want.  I always thought of something better to have in my board.
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2006, 01:00:21 pm »

Congrats and great to see you there! Your playskill is tier 2 to only chuck norris and your random jason impression!

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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2006, 01:02:17 pm »

Rich, what did you think of 25 mana sources as opposed to 26? Were the 3 islands enough?
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2006, 02:22:55 pm »

Congrats, Rich. You were a great roommate and car passenger. I learned a lot from you while having a great time. Thanks for the free Denny's meal and for making a great deck, which won me a Time Walk on Day 2.

There ended up being very few Plains at this tournament. I changed the Massacres to Pyroclasm Day 2, and boarded them in twice. I didn't play against a single Plains, and with only 2 Undergrounds, Jet, and Lotus, Massacres would not have been easy to cast.

Ensnaring Bridge happened to be randomly decent against Ichorid, too, if you could get your hand down in time.
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2006, 03:41:45 pm »

Thanks for the report Rich. Congrats on the win.
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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2006, 04:00:21 pm »

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I had a great time hanging out with you all.

Let me answer a few questions.

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I'm not quite positive on the question of 25 vs 26 mana. My deck, as I made it, was more focused on beating up Drain decks than Workshop decks. Thus the fewer basics, fewer land total, and three Welders. This served me well Day I when I ran into a lot of Drain decks and no Stax decks. Day II, however, Evenpence took me down. Another Basic Land and another Goblin Welder sure would have been great in that match. So, there's no one correct number of mana sources; it varies by metagame.

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More on bridge: I'm guessing you got the idea from Andy but with my testing in both decks, Its good in Brassmans Gifts list because he doesn't need to swing for the win, he can set up Flame/Vault and kill the opponent.  CS needs to Swing with Creatures.
All you need to do against Oath is stall for time. That's it. Eventually I'll go off with Mindslaver and Yawgmoth's Will. With a few Slaver activations, I can deck Oath. With a Welder out, Triskelion can shoot the Oath player to death. And Colossus and Welders can team up to let me attack, but not my opponent. In other words, being unable to attack my opponent isn't really an issue.
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Spellbomb deals with one creature, and the other kills you. Sure, you can do fun things with Goblin Welder and the Spellbomb, but then I'm sure that we can think of better two card comboes to include. Moreover, Spellbomb is just another card that is bad against Null Rod, and moreover the Blue requirement might become an issue against Wasteland, Stripmine, and Choke. Bridge is much cleaner.

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Exactly. Moreover, Bridge is Weldable, meaning that you can attack, bring back bridge, and pass the turn. I did this against Ichorid.dec.

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Merchant Scroll gets Mystical.

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Was there that much combo that made you want 2 Duress and 3 Chalice of the void or do Chailce go in against other decks as well?
The Chalices were there for combo. While I'd rather have REB against Drain decks, Duress is still fine against them. I expected a decent amount of combo, so I brought hate. Ironically, Steve beat me two games before I got to a turn, so the Duresses and Chalices were useless there.
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2006, 07:03:58 pm »

Congrats, Rich! It was great to see you again, and awesome to see Control Slaver dominate pretty much the whole weekend.

out of curiosity, how did you fare Mr Orlove? 
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2006, 07:56:45 pm »

On day 1, I played the Ichorid mirror and lost to Kevin when we were both X-1, so I dropped. On day 2, I was playing meandeck suicide black, but ran into becker and then another combo player for two match losses after going 3-0, 6-0.

I had an absolute blast the entire weekend, though, and got to meet so many people, it was insane.
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2006, 08:11:08 pm »

<3.  Good times Rich.  I greatly enjoyed all our debates on the way home...for all 14 hours of it. Very Happy  Congrats once again!
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2006, 08:41:50 pm »

Good job rich.  Your second mindslaver really surprised me!   Why the change?

When last we played, I was playing DeathLong against your Slaver deck at Waterbury 2004, Jan.  I'm glad to have settled the score with the same decks.  I'm sure we'll meet again.   I was only sad that I didn't get my revenge in June at Origins.  I had to wait until now.  Once again, congrats. 

And esp. congrats on beating Randy in draft!
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I look forward to our next meeting. Nice job beating me turn one twice on a single match -- well played.
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« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2006, 01:12:15 am »

Congrats on the finish.  Way to represent the team, since clearly I was not able to Sad  Thanks for letting me barn the list off you though, I probably would've done even worse if I had used my own, and it helped me smash through side events for packs. 

It was a great weekend, considering our little misadventures with Denny's and the parking garage. 

Again, nice job, and way to just show up out of nowhere and win a Lotus ^_^
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« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2006, 02:04:57 am »

Epic battle?  Since when do turn four scoops count as being epic?  Congratulations on your victory, and it was a pleasure to finally play against you. 

Free Denny's, huh?  Pretty lucky...  I was also given free Pancakes by some of the NE guys!!! 
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