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« on: May 14, 2006, 12:05:25 pm »

Eater of Knowledge
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Creature - Wizard Mutant
1/1
Skip drawing a card: Put a +1/+1 counter on Eater of Knowledge.
Remove a +1/+1 counter from Eater of Knowledge: Draw a card

I'm not really sure of whether the colour, mana cost, and even creature type are appropriate, but basically I wanted a creature who could go on the offense by skipping draws, and then later on use his power to regain those draws.
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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2006, 02:32:10 pm »

Mindless Automaton does everything your trying to do.
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2006, 03:35:03 pm »

I'll admit they're similar, but mindless is vulnerable to artifact destruction and megrim. Whereas this isn't and can be used to stop decking.
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2006, 03:53:41 pm »

I'll admit they're similar, but mindless is vulnerable to artifact destruction and megrim. Whereas this isn't and can be used to stop decking.
Right, but this is much more powerful than the Automaton, and all it has to compensate is the slightly worse casting cost.
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2006, 04:08:26 pm »

I'll admit they're similar, but mindless is vulnerable to artifact destruction and megrim. Whereas this isn't and can be used to stop decking.

Not to sound like a stubborn patriarch, but it is a frequent misconception among new contributors to the Card Creation Forum that the card you're creating has to be good.  Certainly, you've described how this card is different than Mindless Automaton.  Notice, however, that everything you've said about how it's different is also how it's better.

People have offered commentary that 1) This is very similar to a card that already exists and 2) This card is too powerful.  Those two comments suggest that you should look to the existing card for a guideline on power level and then try to find a way to make the card distinct.
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2006, 02:40:10 am »

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People have offered commentary that 1) This is very similar to a card that already exists and 2) This card is too powerful.  Those two comments suggest that you should look to the existing card for a guideline on power level and then try to find a way to make the card distinct.

Yes I appreciate that this card is very similar to Mindless Automaton, but I want to create something that relies on the card draw itself, I'm not bothered about whether or not it ends up as powerful as Mindless Automaton. As for the power level I do agree that it is too powerful, so what if I were to turn it Blue-Black, and make it discard your hand when it comes into play?

Eater of Knowledge
3UB
Creature - Wizard Mutant
1/1
When Eater of Knowledge comes into play discard your hand.
Skip drawing a card: Put a +1/+1 counter on Eater of Knowledge.
Remove a +1/+1 counter from Eater of Knowledge: Draw a card

How about that?

The other option I suppose I could possibly take is to make it skip your draw step, that way the deck itself would have to be built around it more and the power level would obviously have dropped quite a bit.
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2006, 11:14:59 am »

"Skip Drawing a Card" is not real magic terminology, just so you know.  Not to mention, you can't skip something as a cost anymore (see: time vault).  You would need "0: The next time you would draw a card this turn, instead put a +1/+1 counter on ~"
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2006, 04:34:55 pm »

Mindless Automaton is far far superior to this card. Sure you can't be decked (but then again if I cast a 5cc creature which you don't kill, don't expect to deck me often regardless of the creature, how often have you been decked after casting an Orgg?) and you have a few cute party tricks with stuff like Sylvan Library but you don't turn into a 8/8 face-smasher very often and frankly sucks at trading 2 lands for a new card. And Mindless Automaton is not particularly vulnerable to artifact destruction

The only reason the original version couldn't be printed is because it is too weak. For 5 mana I can give up 4 card draws to make it a 5/5 non-evasive creature? Couldn't I just cast Meloku and win instead? Or Air Elemental and have 3 more cards in hand?

Weak as it is, because it has a mana-less activated ability that says draw a card, it probably couldn't cost less than 4 mana but I'd still hate to see this as my rare.

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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2006, 10:33:49 am »

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Mindless Automaton is far far superior to this card.

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I'm not bothered about whether or not it ends up as powerful as Mindless Automaton.

You say Mindless Automaton is better, no offense but i'm not really bothered about that.

What if i were to give this an evasion ability? I'm guessing it would more likely be flying or fear, but something that could be worth considering for a bit of fun would be shadow.  Wink At least if it had an evasion ability it would justify the mana cost.
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