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Troll Glutton  Creature -- Troll Shaman 3/2 Troll Glutton can't be the target of spells or abilities you control. I remember reading about how Humble Budoka is actually worse than Grizzly Bears because your opponent never has to worry about combat tricks. Basically, this card is a +1/+0 bear that can never be equipped, enchanted or Might of Oaksed but still dies to just about every removal spell your opponent has. Basically, he's an anti-Troll Ascetic. Savage Ape
Creature -- Ape Warrior
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Savage Ape can't be the target of spells or abilities you control.
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2006, 11:59:18 am » |
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That's an interesting symmetry, and the card is well balanced too. All that seems a bit off is the name.
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2006, 12:22:42 pm » |
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This is a well-designed card that doesn't need any tweaking; wizards already makes cards that are strictly better than Grizzly Bears (anyone remember Wild Mongrel?) and this will very often be much worse. It could be 4/1, I think.
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2006, 01:33:37 pm » |
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I'd rather add another ability to mirror Troll Ascetic's regeneration. I'm not sure if there's much room for a good ability, though. True, cards can be strictly better than Grizzly Bears, but not by much. A point of power is a big deal on a two-mana creature. And Wild Mongrel was a mistake. If someone submitted Wild Mongrel to this board, I would inform them it was too powerful.
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2006, 01:37:07 pm » |
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This is fine as-is.
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2006, 01:57:55 pm » |
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Although I like the symmetry with Troll Ascetic, I don't think this should be a troll if it doesn't regenerate. I think the card is perfectly balanced as is and don't want to add another ability. So what should this be? Elf? Dryad? Beast? Any ideas about creature type/name/flavor text?
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2006, 01:58:58 pm » |
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What about having:
Discard a card: Regenerate Troll Glutton?
Other than that, not a bad card; it reflects the Ascetic without being identical.
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2006, 07:16:44 pm » |
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You could make it an Insect or an Ape. I'd rather leave it without another ability.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2006, 07:20:40 am » |
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Not that I think he needs a 2nd ability, but if you wanted him to mirror Troll Ascetic, you could give him activated venom?  : At the end of combat destroy a creatures who were dealt damage by ~this~ this turn. |
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2006, 11:20:10 am » |
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I've updated the flavor a bit. I like it as an ape. Too bad Savage Gorilla was already taken.
I feel the card is where it needs to be mechanically. It only needs an ability to mirror Troll Ascetic if it is still a troll. And if it's a troll, it needs to regenerate. I feel regeneration would weaken the drawback too much. The whole point is if someone tries to kill him, you can't save him with a Giant Growth or Healing Salve effect.
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2006, 11:57:28 am » |
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I've updated the flavor a bit. I like it as an ape. Too bad Savage Gorilla was already taken.
You could call it Savage Ape, or Barbaric Gorilla. Savage Warrior sounds like a Human. |
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2006, 01:38:14 pm » |
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Yeah, Savage Ape is better than Savage Warrior.
For GG, about the best we have is Elvish Warriors at 2/3. I'm fine with this being a 3/2.
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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2006, 09:10:21 am » |
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24h clock.
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