[Results - Top 8] T1 Hanau, 05.08.2006 (proxy tournament)

[Tobi]

Proxy Tournaments are rare in Germany. This was one of the few that sometimes take place. It was a test to see what happens.
What happened:
- 17 players appeared, which is quite much during vacation times
- 4 players were able to play "powered" through proxies (2 went top 8 - Johannes and Fabian)
- most of the players had very few proxies (most of them play sanctioned T1, so they own P9)
- most proxied card: Grim Tutor
- most played deck (6 times): Litz Long (of course we name it that way  )
The organizer was quite content with the tournament, so I guess we will have some more proxy tournaments in the future, maybe alternating with sanctioned ones.
1st prize: italian Mana Drain



Top 8


1. David Sieb

teamibay's marke eigenbuild

4 Illusionary Mask
4 Phyrexian Dreadnought
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Black Lotus
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Force of Will
3 Brainstorm
4 Mana Leak
2 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Rushing River
4 Dark Confidant
4 Duress
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor

4 Polluted Delta
3 Underground Sea
3 Island
3 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Flooded Strand
1 Swamp

Sideboard:

1 Tinker
1 Sundering Titan
2 Tormods Crypt
2 Arcan Laboratory
1 Echoing Truth
1 Rebuild
1 Massacre
1 Darkblast
2 Engineered Explosives
2 Pithing Needle
1 Hymn to Tourach



2. Johannes Trunk

Team Nil´s Time to get Heavy

1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mana Vault
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
4 Smokestack
3 Tangle Wire
3 Sphere of Resistance
3 Chalice of the Void
2 Sundering Titan
1 Karn Silver Golem
1 Triskelion
1 Trinisphere
3 Crucible of Worlds
1 Memory Jar
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
4 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Wheel of Fortune
4 Goblin Welder
2 Gorilla Shaman
4 Mishras Workshop
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Barbarian Ring
4 Volcanic Island
1 Island
1 Mountain
4 Wasteland
1 Stripmine

Sideboard:

2 Uba Mask
1 Triskelioin
1 Mindslaver
1 Chalice of the Void
1 Jesters Cap
4 Red Elemental Blast
2 Pyroblast
2 Rack and Ruin
1 Duplicant



3. Alexander Thomas

4 Chalice of the Void
2 Null Rod
1 1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Black Lotus
4 Brainstorm
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
1 Rushing River
3 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
2 Duress
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Darkblast
4 Oath of Druids
1 Gaeas Blessing
1 Crop Rotation
1 Akromah, Angel of Wrath
1 Razia Boros Archangel
4 Forbidden Orchard
3 Underground Sea
2 Tropical Island
2 Flooded Strand
2 Polluted Delta
2 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Island

Sideboard:

3 Engergy Flux
2 Tormods Crypt
2 Pithing Needle
2 Oxidize
2 Simic Sky Swallower
3 Extract
1 Darkblast



4. Tobias Egelhof

Horden Tendrils (longer!)

1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Lions Eye Diamond
1 Chrome Mox
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Lotus Petal
2 Chromatic Sphere
1 Memory Jar
4 Force of Will
4 Brain Storm
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Timetwister
1 Minds Desire
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
1 Hurkyls Recall
1 Chain of Vapor
3 Tendrils of Agony
1 Necropotence
1 Yawgmoths Bargain
1 Yawgmoths Will
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Imperial Seal
2 Grim Tutor
1 Demonic Consultation
4 Dark Ritual
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Polluted Delta
2 Underground Sea
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Island
1 Swamp

Sideboard:
1 Massacre
1 Tendrils of Agony
3 Defense Grid
2 Rushing River
3 Chain of Vapor
1 Hurkyl's Recall
2 Rebuild
1 Swamp
1 Island



5. Marcus Quandt

Horden Gifts

1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Lotus Petal
1 Sundering Titan
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
4 Brainstorm
3 Gifts Ungiven
2 Merchant Scroll
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Tinker
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Rebuild
4 Dark Confidant
2 Duress
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yawgmoths Will
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Recoup

4 Polluted Delta
3 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
3 Island
1 Swamp
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Flooded Strand

Sideboard:

2 Duress
1 Mind Twist
1 Darkblast
1 Pyroclasm
1 Fire Ice
1 Rushing River
2 Rack and Ruin
1 Viashinog Heretic
2 Pithing Needle
2 Tormody Crypt
1 Darksteel Colossus



6. Fabian Lenz

4 Goblin Charbelcher
4 Chromatic Spere
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Memory Jar
1 Lions Eye Diamond
1 Grim Monolith
1 Lotus Petal
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Timetwister
1 Time Walk
3 Brainstorm
1 Tinker
1 Windfall
4 Dark Ritual
1 Necropotence
1 Spoils of the Vault
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Yawgmoths Will
1 Vampiric Tutor
4 Elvish Spirit Guide
2 Living Wish
1 Channel
4 Tinder Wall
4 Land Grant
3 Goblin Welder
1 Wheel of Fortune

1 Bayou
1 Tropical Island

Sideboard:

1 Uktabi Orangutan
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Mishras Workshop
1 Boneshredder
2 Phyrexian Negator
1 Viridian Shaman
1 Scavenger Folk
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Goblin Welder
2 Tormody Crypt
2 Naturalize
1 Oxidize



7. Frank Mann

1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Trinisphere
3 Null Rod
3 Crucible of Worlds
4 Uba Mask
4 Chalice of Void
4 Smokestack
1 Karn Silver Golem
2 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Sundering Titan
1 Duplicant
4 Goblin Welder
2 Gorilla Shaman
1 Wheel of Fortune

4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Barbarian Ring
4 Mountain
4 Mishras Workshop
4 Bazaar of Baghdad

Sideboard:

2 Duplicant
1 Null Rod
3 Viashino Heretic
2 Orb of Dreams
1 Jesters Cap
2 Price of Glory
3 Lava Dart
1 Rack and Ruin



8. Simo Fassl

Grims Märchen, aka Staxxkiller

1 Black Lotus
1 Lion's Eye Diamond
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Memory Jar
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
1 Ancestral Recall
4 Brainstorm
1 Chain of Vapor
4 Force of Will
1 Mind's Desire
3 Misdirection
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Rebuild
1 Timetwister
1 Tinker
1 Windfall
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Dark Ritual
1 Demonic Tutor
3 Grim Tutor
1 Imperial Seal
1 Necropotence
2 Tendrils of Agony
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
1 Yawgmoth's Will

1 Flooded Strand
1 Island
4 Polluted Delta
1 Swamp
1 Tolarian Academy
3 Underground Sea

Sideboard:

1 Hurkyls Recall
2 Rebuild
4 Phyrexian Negator
2 Chain of Vapor
3 Dark Confidant
1 Island
1 Swamp
1 Time Walk

[ReAnimator]

thats quite the varied results for a top 8!

were most people pleased with the proxies on the whole?

its interesting in that gifts list that there is a Stitan but no colosus, seems sort of poor because there is stax present and lots of combo, and you would think the Darksteel would be better for those matchups.

Thanks for sharing the lists

[Phele]

Well, Collossus is better for the staxx matchup, but its favorable for Gift anyway and Dark Gifts kills much more frequently with Tendrils. In the combo matchup on the other side, I don't see any reason why Collossus should be any better. The other way around, Titan shines against combo which usually plays swamps and islands over here.

[Tobi]

were most people pleased with the proxies on the whole?

Most people already own power, since all of the tournaments are sanctioned. Some guys however did not, and they were very pleased, of course 
Some people were angry, because they spent a lot of money getting their power. I think having sanctioned and proxy tournaments alternating will be best for everyone.
We will see...

[ReAnimator]

Wow angry that more people get to be competitive and play your favorite format? seems pretty selfish.
i'm fully powered and i always loved proxy events because of these things not the other way around, seems sort of near sighted, who cares about the money.

RE: colosus
yeah if the combo decks are playing basic lands than i guess it seems ok, i would still rather have a 2 turn clock than 3 turn clock with a stone rain, esp. since you have the oportunity to hit a walk or to mini tendrils them out.

[nachtfrost7]

It is more likely a "3 turn clock with double or tripple Stone rain" which is good.
When I devastaded the manabase I dont`t care if it takes one more round to finish. And the combo decks often deal 6 dmg to themselves due to Grim Tutor, Crypt and Fetchlands or with the help of Dark Confidant.
In these 5 rounds I played against 2 Litz Long/Pitch Long decks 2:0. Without the Titan and the Duresses this would not have been possible.
Darksteel Collossus just gets bounced via Chain or Rebuild especially if you can`t play Timewalk/Recoup in the same turn.
The Titan also shines vs control.  Against Stax I sideboard the colossus in.


Regarding the proxies: The problem is not only the money but more that the tournaments are not sanctioned and the proxies look ugly. (basics with the cardname written on).
And there is less "thrill" when you know it has nearly no consequences if you screw up.
If a lot of new players were attracted to the proxy-tournament it may be a little bit different, but the situation is that at this tournament most players dislike proxies and only very few like them.

Marcus Quandt

[ReAnimator]

cool, thanks for answering my questions.

Too bad more people dont' like the proxies, but i guess i understand their point of veiw a bit more.