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MAX1
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« on: September 13, 2006, 08:57:39 pm »

Hi ! i'm new on this site and i love it!
This is my black deck : (sorry my english is not perfect..  Rolling Eyes so i will try to do my best)

1 x Demonic Hordes
4 x Mole Worms
4 x Phyrexian Negator
2 x Nether Void
2 x Underworld Dreams
2 x Worms of the Earth
1 x Vampiric Tutor
2 x Word Of Command
4 x Dark Ritual
1 x Demonic Tutor
4 x Drain Life
2 x Mutilate
4 x Rancid Earth
4 x Rhystic Tutor
4 x Sinkhole
2 x The Abyss
2 x Death Grip
2 x Gloom
3 x Diabolic Edict
2 x Terror
4 x Duress
16 x Swamp
1 x Strip Mine
2 x WasteLand

Thanks!  Very Happy

update : oops.. i  think i'm not on the right place and i can't delete my own message  Neutral (sorry for this..)
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2006, 09:03:04 pm »

This deck is AWESOME!  It should have absolutely no trouble beating Pitch Long.



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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2006, 05:33:19 am »

everyone knows this deck cant beat Pitch long, this deck is good in a meta full of stax and gifts.

I dont know what to say about this deck, but I will try.

I would replace terror with chainers edict.

replace Demonic Hordes with Hell dozer. They are the same, except that the dozer doesnt have the upkeep cost, and it is a 6/5 instead of 5/5, and if you destroy a nonbasic land, you can destroy again.

Maybe add Nantuko shades, and perhaps a nivenyrrals disk to clean the board.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2006, 10:04:56 am »

19 lands in a 75 card deck? How do you even play this? I think that you would get mana screwed often.
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How about choosing a non-legend creature? Otherwise he is a UG instant Wrath of Frog.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2006, 03:48:16 pm »

Thanks for your comment, i will try to find a Nantuko shades and for the Nevinyrral's Disk, i think he could play anyting with my nether void or gloom etc.. so it's ok  :lol: and yes Hell dozer is better but.. i don't like this new desing on new cards  Confused ( Mirrodin an up.. )
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2006, 04:52:54 pm »

This deck is AWESOME!  It should have absolutely no trouble beating Pitch Long.



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On topic, to the thread starter, I do think you need more land.  Are you sure word of command is that great, since it an be responded to?  Maybe a single neropotence?  Also, underworld dreams is iffy unless you are playing multiplayer; try chains of mephestopheles if you want to shut of excessive card draw?
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2006, 05:04:26 pm »

Thanks philato but my priority now is for Yawgmoth's Will  :lol:
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2006, 09:51:20 pm »

You may also want to cut her down to 60 cards, playing more means less chance to get the card you need.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2006, 04:54:58 am »

Like Largent said, concising your deck to 60 cards is vital. That is because every deck has a strategy and needs consistency in drawing essential cards.

Looking at your list I think the deck is suffering from indecisiveness - does it want to be a LD (land destruction) deck, Void, Sui or something else?

Regardless of strategy, the weakest cards in your list are the following because they are either inefficient on their own or do not suit the strategy:

1 x Demonic Hordes
4 x Mole Worms
2 x Worms of the Earth
2 x Word Of Command
4 x Rhystic Tutor
2 x Death Grip
2 x Gloom
2 x Terror
2 x Underworld Dreams
4 x Drain Life

To me the rest of your deck looks much like a Nether Void deck, which is a course I recommend if you like mana denial. I recommend you read Zherbus' primer (part 1, part 2, part 3) to better understand how the deck works and which cards to use and why.

Here's the first decklist from the primer:

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Devil's Bile, by Zherbus

Creatures (12)
4 Nantuko Shades
4 Hypnotic Specters
4 Mishra's Factory

Disruption (15)
4 Sinkhole
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Duress
3 Nether Void

Removal (3)
3 Powder Kegs

Broken (4)
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoths Will
1 Demonic Consultation
1 Necropotence

Mana (26) (30 w/Mishra's)
4 Dark Rituals
1 Strip Mine
4 Wasteland
1 Sol Ring
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
14 Swamps

Obviously if you stay casual and do not aim for competitiveness, you may make adjustments according to personal preference.

Another route in which you can take your deck is a Megrim based deck with heavy discard. Such a deck could look something like this (I used to play this casually):

Dark Dreams.dec

Spells (35)

4 Duress
4 Hymn To Tourach
4 Night's Whisper
3 Innocent Blood

3 Megrim
3 Chains of Mephistopheles
3 Underworld Dreams

4 Anvil Of Bogardan
2 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Memory Jar

1 Mind Twist
1 Necropotence
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Demonic Tutor

Manasources (25)

14 Swamp
4 Dark Ritual
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Lotus Petal
1 Sol Ring

Hope I gave you some ideas as to how to improve your deck. You should also look into Sui Black as an option if you want to take an aggressive route with disruption and a tendency to hurt oneself.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2006, 03:45:59 pm »

Thank you Shmn, i will read it now !  Wink

My strategy for me is to destroy land and put nether void (but i need a cabal coffers) afte i play rhystic tutor/diabolic tutor or vampiric tutor. next , i play the abyss and duress etc...
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