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« on: March 26, 2007, 03:03:43 pm »

Riffing off Matt's invitational card making, the flavor here is a dude you sends you and your opponent(s) to another plane.  I think he would be cool with a guild mana cost but I'm not sure about colour, BR or BW seems like it's probably right.  Sort of an homage to the p9 twister, too.  And I like making stuff that helps underdog decks in eternal formats.

Planetwister  ({B}/?)({B}/?)
Human Wizard

Flash
Sacrifice Planetwister: remove all graveyards and all Enchant Worlds from the game.

Begone form this place.
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Flash is a blatant attempt at making him better.  Enchant Worlds is good for flavor but maybe unneccecary, especially considering they don't pop up much.


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Sanctified Deathkeeper  ({B}/ {W})  ({B}/ {W})
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Sacrifice Sanctified Deathkeeper: remove all graveyards from the game.

They have domain over the fallen.  We don't want to know why.
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2007, 03:13:28 pm »

Enchant worlds are one of those "We never should have done that" kind of things, so I doubt you'd see it come up in a new set.  Also, black enchantment removal is a no-no, so I don't really see this card working out.  I do like the flavor, but I think you'd be more likely to see it have a significant life-cost attached, as well.
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2007, 03:22:28 pm »

Black should not have enchantment destruction, especially at instant speed, moreso that it doesn't target. I would suggest that the graveyard removal actually do something, like power up the critter, or do damage, or loss of life. Flash is unneeded as well (and out of color?). Maybe like:


Craven Defiler  1BBB
Creature - Ghoul Wizard
X, Sacrifice Planedefiler, remove your graveyard from the game: remove all graveyards from the game, where X is the number of cards in all opponent graveyards. Target opponent loses X life.
Can you sacrifice the dead? I think it has found a way.
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The templating is tougher, and this is NOT a multiplayer card, but I think it's fair at any time in the game (If you have the mana!).

edit: This might be more interesting if it did NOT sacrifice. Hmmm...
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2007, 05:31:27 pm »

Board clearing effects are Red, Green or Blue.  Distinctly not Black or White.  If you want to journey to a new plane, isn't that more of a Sway of the Stars effect anyway?
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2007, 08:35:59 pm »

well technically Enchant Worlds were going to a different plane.  Which I suppose messes with the whole graveyard-nuking thing.  Removing the Enchant World clause is not a problem though.

Board-clearing is r/g/u, but graveyard empyting effects are very distinctly black (coffin purge, extirpate ,withered wretch etc).  I said W because it's a "fair" effect that is the same for everyone and has an effect that could be construed as rulemaking: no fucking with the graveyard.  White also has Honor the Fallen.  Red, yeah in retrospect probably not so much, I was thinking mostly the fact that he's a 2/1 flash for pretty cheap.

Maybe the planar part of the "banishing" could be changed, but I'd kind of like to keep the general idea that he sends you somewhere else... all your dead/used up stuff gets left behind.
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2007, 12:44:12 am »

When you go to another plane, why do you lose your graveyard but keep your permanants and hand?
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2007, 05:37:08 am »

White and Blue can clear the board - it's just a little harder to do. Wrath, Purify, Serenity, Cataclysm, Akroma's Vengeance, Balance, Restore Balance, Balancing Act are all White board-clearers of sorts. Blue has mass bounce like Wash Out, Upheaval, Sunder etc. It doesn't necessarily destroy everything, but it can certainly get everything off the board.

If anything, I'd ask what mono-Green has to offer in this sphere other than Tranquility.
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2007, 03:08:39 pm »

Desert Twister + Radiate.
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2007, 06:43:34 pm »

Hardly mono-Green!
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2007, 10:10:18 pm »

Alright, so the flavor is clearly a no-go, since everyone else thinks it doesn't work.  Is the functional part of the card rescuable?  New name and flavor text coming up.  Does B/W seem ok?  Probably axe Flash if so.

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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2007, 10:22:16 pm »

I think the card is fine, but without flash.
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2007, 03:41:26 pm »

I like it, but yeah flash isn't needed since he can pop at instant speed anyway.
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2007, 01:31:32 pm »

alright, 24 hours to complain that this guy doesn't make sense
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