Eudemonia 2008 Pearl Results! Lists/pics soon!

[LotusHead]

29 People. 1 Emerald  Eudemonia's Feature matches and lists can be found at www.Eudemonia.net/p9 now or soon.


Top 8

Morgan Brewer - Storm.dec
David Ochoa (Webster) - Tyrant Oath
Michael Bue - Reveilark Flash
Dan Messiano - Reveilark Flash
Brett Allen - Storm.dec. I think I saw Gush, but Dark Rits none-the less. I think.
Walter Shatford - ??? If I had to guess, Flash.
Eric Campusano - UWB Bomberman w/ YawgWill (I saw a list like it recently, so possibly that. who knows. Eric has crazy decks.)
Luis Scott-Vargas - Tyrant Oath

Team Vacaville noobed out.  Lotsa new faces (to me) at the tourney.  At LEAST 6 Flash Decks, and say, 5 Ichorid Decks, and a 4 Tyrant Oath Decks.  There was also Bomberman X2, Stax/Shop x3 and R/G Beats!

Much fun, and major huge props to Webster, Luis, JeffTheFob and their crew fro protecting my deck that I left carelessly at a tourney last week.  Yes, my Shop deck with full Jewelry and 2 shops and pimpy goodness.  Ochoa, who is my Arch-Nemessis, is a man of honor.

I got my deck back from Web, re-built it from last week by adding 3 Jesters Caps, 3 Smokestacks and firing 6 cards maindeck, then offered to let my teammate Austin play with my power by giving me his UW Bomberman build for my Shop Monstrosity.  He bought it.

My mini-report:

Round 1: ??? playing ???
Game 1: I mull to 6 with turn 1 (on the play) TimeTwister as my only play. I take it. He has no force... I get stuff online and win soon enough.
Game 2: He flashes me, and I die.
Game 3: I mull hand of 6 to one with Force.  He combos off with Force Backup, and I die...


Round 2: ??? Playing ???
Game 1: He's playing goblins, and I combo out soon enough.
Game 2: I play Meddling Mage namine Red Blast. He pyroblasts it.
I Tinker for DSC and he dies 2 turns later.  He had a perfectly good pimpy 4cc Control deck with Goyf and Bob, but wanted to play goblins. Fun fun fun!

Round 3: ??? Playing ???
Game 1: He's Ichorid. I lose
Game 2: I get early tormod's crypt into play. we tussle.  When I am at 1 life, I am happy to resolve Trinket Mage (with 2 mana availiable) to survive his 1 NarcoMoeba field. I get Top because I forgot that (didn't read card) that Narcomeobas have Flying.  He was at 2 cards in Library. I suck. (I have to fix that fact soon...)

Round 4: ??? playing ???
Game 1: I play an early Salvagers. He forces it with an Underground Sea in play.
I soon Tinker for Collossus, and then timetwister because I love that card.  He gets no answers and I win.
G2: He flashes me and I die. I do make him go through the steps to see if he knows it, because the technical knowhow isn't automatic (like Salvager, Black Lotus, and Spellbomb). He performs correctly and I correctly sideboard.
G3: He flashes me turn 1 and I die.  I had Land, BStorm, Lotus, Mindsensor, Brainstorm.  All of which is good if I get a turn which I don't.

Round 5: Cory with Mana Ichorid
He killls me game 1
I get Salvager/Tormod's Crypt online soon, and keep it up and win.
Game 3: after a battle through Leyline of the Void, I finally topdeck Seal of Cleansing, rid myself of Leyline, play Salvager, pass the turn, and live till my next turn and win. Whoot! I beat Ichorid finally!

Pics soon.

[hiryu]

To fill out some details:

 - it was the Pearl tournament, not the Emerald
 - Walter played manaless Ichorid.  Flash and Ichorid were fully rampant at this tournament
 - Brett (that's me) played TTS (Gush Tendrils)
 - the semis were LSV vs me, and Michael vs Web
 - Web and I split in the finals

Props to Eudemonia for another well-run event!

[jeffthefob]

The tourney was pretty fun, with like 29 players on the field it was definitely refreshing.  Eudo events were always well-ran.

There were infinite Flash and Ichorid running around; I am one of them :-p But I ran the Oath transformational sideboard which a lot of others (everyone else maybe :-p) didn't.  I am just waiting for Menendian to post his article on SCG before I went on and comment on it, because that was my guess what his SB plan is though I am not 100% sure.  If it was, then good, if not, then... awkward!!!111one.

I was 2-1-1 and got paired against LSV last round :-/ So I went home early to grade some papers and prepare lesson plans for tomorrow's class.  Next thing I knew was that Brett drew a nice demonic tutor in the top 4 ^^  Good job to Brett and Webster.

I also heard that g2 of the t4 Web's opponent countered a Gush with FoW pitching Body Double.  Thus concluding that Flash is a really nice powerful deck and many other various things..... ^^"""

Can't wait for the pictures.  I think there were pictures of me playing Oath and Flash xD

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Edit: Awesome, I was wrong ^^"  Instead of editing out I am going to leave it there and say, "AWKWARD." I guessed wrong T_T

My sideboard was 4 Oath, 4 Orchard, 2 Plat. Angel, 4 Duress, and 1 Echoing Truth.  I swap out 4x Flash, 4x Hulk, 2 Green Pact, and the 5 Combo kills.  Which makes 15 for 15 exactly, I couldn't resist the perfect 15's.

Anyways the funny thing about this is I didn't board in the Oath plan against mirror and Tyrant Oath; which are the two most popular decks right now IMO.  After the tourney, this made me think that maybe the plan isn't so hot after all.  Against Oath they still combo you out and against mirror if they have the Revellark kill then you are screwed anyways.  And I am not sure if I board that in against Ichorid.  So, it isn't too hot against the more popular decks.

I came into the tourney wanting to have some and surprise people with the Oath sb (which I did) was accomplished; I def. had lot of fun and surprised people.  But on the hindsight, I ended up boarding in Duresses and the lone echoing truth (against Tyrant Oath and Flash Mirror) more than boarding in the Oath transformational.  And I missed not having leylines. 

However, the surprise factor and the mind game factor was definitely nice, I beat my round 1 opponent with it and my round 2 opponent was confused and didn't board in Leylines because he was afraid I went Oath.  Also surprised my rd. 4 opponent when he couldn't handle a Plat. Angel on board.

Regarding Menendian's 5 Sliver switch SB I wholeheartedly agree.  That was what I did last week in the Sacramento's tourney and it worked out great.  The only mistake I have in that tourney was not to run Leylines, which is a "mistake" that my friend Matt (who also top 8) didn't, due to circumstances ^^.  And I got wrecked by Extirpate round 3 so bad.  I won g1, and lost g2 & g3.  Both g2 & g3 I had turn 2 kill with counter, but he had that one of his TWO timely Extirpate both games.  He saw 11 cards in g2 and 8 cards in g3, hitting the one of the two that he had was... ><  I guess that illustrate my two opinions about Flash.  One, Sliver sb is good, it negates a lot of hate.  And I experienced it a couple times now.  Two, Flash is a nice deck...

The Oath sb plan is good against Stax and other creature decks (and assuming your opponents weren't prepared for it).  Basically it negates opponent's Leyline plans.  Guess it is up to the players' choice to think if they want want to accomplish.  I believe that the Oath SB have its own merits, and like everything else, the players need to see if the benefit is greater than the cost/drawback.

People tend to like discuss about banning, I personally will just play with whatever the rules are.  It isn't true that I have an opinion, but I am just... ^^ But I always said this since I picked up this deck the first time back when Future Sight was released: Flash is a nice deck :-p [/w some sarcasm]

[Vegeta2711]

I wish I could've gone, I had Faeries all set-up and raring to go. At least I got some Rock Band in after work.

Grats to the winners.

[XxtSundaybxX]

Anyone have the top 8 decklists?

hiryu, i'm interested in seeing your list

[Dr_Tongue]

Anyone have the top 8 decklists?

hiryu, i'm interested in seeing your list

I'm interested in seeing it as well. Strangely though, I'm curious as to Veggies planned deck list as well.

[LotusHead]

Anyone have the top 8 decklists?

hiryu, i'm interested in seeing your list

Lists will be put up by Eudemonia at www.Eudemonia.net/p9 soon (and I'll edit them into here).

Pics!


Lots and lots of flash...


RG Beats vs UWB BOmberman with Will.


This Flash on Flash game went to time and ended in a draw... I think.


Our Meta


She played Flash. Everyone played Flash.


Mana Ichorid comes down to hardcast beats sometimes...


There might have been 3 shop decks total.

[Webster]

I had been up in Davis for a few days prior hanging out with some friends for the times. They wanted me to BBQ for them (since I'm kinda a big deal, etc) and I was happy to oblige. There was much eating, drinking, and rock band. Yes, lots of rock band.

The tournament at Eudemonia starts at 11 AM so we have to leave Davis at 9 AM. I have a bad night of sleep from a combination of being too hot (must be the shaved head), friend's snoring, cats running around, and not being in my own bed at home. So I wake up at 6 AM. I have to figure out a solution to get more sleep so I put in the earplugs and kick back the covers. I get waken up at 8:40 AM. A quick shower and we're out the door.

I hadn't really given much thought into what I was going to play. I just brought up the oath deck that I used the week before at the tournament at Adventures Comics & Cards. I brought along a few other cards as well and eventually get browbeat into putting 4 leyline into the sideboard over 2 crypts and 2 extirpates.


Oath
4 duress
4 force of will
1 chain of vapor

4 brainstorm
4 gush
3 ponder

3 merchant scroll
1 demonic tutor
1 vampiric tutor

4 oath of druids
1 ancestral recall
1 fastbond
1 time walk
1 yawgmoth's will

2 tidespout tyrant
1 krosan reclamation
1 flash of insight
1 brain freeze

1 black lotus
1 lotus petal
1 mox emerald
1 mox jet
1 mox ruby
1 mox sapphire

4 forbidden orchard
3 polluted delta
2 flooded strand
2 tropical island
2 underground sea
2 volcanic island
1 island


Sideboard:
1 blazing archon
1 thoughtseize
1 spawning pit
1 tendrils of agony
2 pithing needle
2 shattering spree
3 red elemental blast
4 leyline of the void


Round 1: Goblins

I saw part of his decklist since it was face up when we were shuffling and so I know he's goblins. At that point, I was thinking that fate was foreshadowing a fortuitous day.

Game 1: I lose the die roll and keep a hand with turn 2 oath with the average assortment of blue cards. Unfortunately there is no force in my opening 7 to stop his turn 1 play of mountain, lotus, warchief, piledriver. Thanks fate; you're a real jerk. I don't draw a mox on my turn 1 and am unable to put together a storm kill before he kills me on his turn 3.

Game 2 / 3: I don't really remember these too well since they were at the start of the day. My deck did its thing, and well, oath of druids is a nice card against the goblin tribe.

1-0


Round 2: David Petterson, GAT

I have to admit that I'm a somewhat interesting person, and thus, fate decided to tag along for a bit longer to torment me. Ryan, our judge, informed me prior to the round starting that my opponent has a game loss, he starts game 2, no SBing for game 2, no extra time, yada yada yada....

Game 2: As you  may have noticed, one of the sub-themes of this report is fate taunting me. Well, it's not over yet. I suppose I should thank fate for giving me an interesting round, but I'm not. I mull to 5 on the draw. I duress him and see: drain, force, brainstorm, will, strand. He has island in play. I take brainstorm. He duresses me the next turn and ancestrals the turn after that. He plays a 2 dryads in consecutive turns followed by will. I haven't had anything going on over on my side so I lose.

Game 3: I don't remember this one very well. I know I won.

2-0


Lunch.

My sister told me about this Indian place called on Oxford a few stores past the starbucks if you're walking south of University on Oxford. It was nice. The dishes are $1-2 a la carte with $1 sides. So I got some chicken masala, rice, and naan for $4. Mise.


Round 3: Mike Klemic, Deez Noughts

I am Mike Klemic's kryptonite. He cannot beat me.

Game 1: I have 2 duress for his mystical tutor and engineered explosives to set up a turn where I play oath with force backup for his force. He has a dude in play so I win.

Game 2: I know that I'm playing against 4-5 stifles so I needed to be careful. He resolves a tarmogoyf and dark confidant while I scroll for force and DT (for REB). I play oath and we trade countermagic. My REB wins. He plays a trygon predator. I oath up a tyrant and play a spell to bounce his confidant. He says he needs to topdeck something good. He drew demonic tutor for aether spellbomb. The play was in vain though as I play krosan rec in response, bouncing his predator with my tyrant. I go off with will on the next turn.

3-0


Round 4: Dan Messiano, Flash

I am paired down. He is 2-0-1. I don't bother offering the draw.

Game 1: He has land, sapphire, brainstorm, jet, lotus turn 1. He wins on turn 3 I think.

Game 2: I mull to 6 keeping 3 land, petal, force, gush. He duresses me then flashes.

3-1


Round 5: Some dude

We I.D.

3-0-1


Top 8: Morgan Brewer, Superlong or TTS

It was about time for fate to show up again, taunting me with sweet musings of conquest. This time, it was for real. This match personally ranks in the top 5% of most lopsided matches that I've played.

Game 1: I win the die roll and keep a hand with: orchard, petal, volcanic, oath, will, gush, X. Mise well. My oath sticks. He duresses me and takes X. I oath up tyrant and play the time walk I just drew. I oath again and draw a land so I can play will. There's a lot in my yard including fastbond, several gush, scrolls, and moxes so I win.

Game 2: I keep: lotus, orchard, oath, force, tyrant, scroll, ponder. He mulls to 6 and thoughtseizes me. I force. I draw brainstorm. I play lotus and scroll for force. I play orchard and oath. He plays ritual into will and I force because he'll be able to play ritual, petal, brainstorm, thoughtseize at the minimum. I oath up my last tyrant and bounce all of his lands every turn as I lava axe him for 4 turns.

4-1-1


Top 4: Michael Bue, flash

Game 1: I don't remember this one. I won.

Game 2: He brainstorms. I duress his merchant scroll. I resolve an oath but cannot find an orchard despite resolving recall and all 4 brainstorms with shuffle effects in between each brainstorm. At one point, he plays force pitching body double which was odd. He plays leyline of the void; another odd choice but it's irrelevant for the most part. I know his hand is 2 hulk which are also inconsequencial. I find will and find an orchard. I had brain freeze in hand along with 2 force, REB, krosan rec, and some blue cards. If the tyrant had been the last card of my deck, I would have krosan rec'd in response, bouncing his leyline so I wouldn't die.

5-1-1


Top 2: Brett Allen, TTS

It's getting late. We look at the numbers and split.

5-1-2

[hiryu]

hiryu, i'm interested in seeing your list

I'm sure Eudemonia will have the lists will be up soon, but since I can basically copy and paste from Eirik's deck a couple of weeks ago, here it is:

3 Polluted Delta
3 Flooded Strand
3 Underground Sea
1 Tropical Island
3 Island
3 Duress
1 Thoughtseize
4 Ponder
4 Brainstorm
4 Force of Will
4 Gush
4 Dark Ritual
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Lotus Petal
1 Black Lotus
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Imperial Seal
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
2 Merchant Scroll
1 Fastbond
1 Timetwister
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Misdirection
1 Echoing Truth
1 Necropotence
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Time Walk
1 Hurkyl's Recall
2 Tendrils of Agony
SB:
4 Dark Confidant
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Engineered Explosives
1 Hydroblast
1 Swamp
1 Hurkyls Recall
1 Snuff Out
1 Extirpate

Here's a little report.  Working mostly from memory, so the details may be off.

Round 1 vs Shane (Manaless Ichorid)

I win the die roll and consider my hand of Flood Strand, Duress, Merchant Scroll, double Force, double Gush.  Seems OK, because the disruption can give me time to get more mana.  When I Duress, he shows Chalice, Ichorid, Narcomoeba, Thug, Dryad Arbor, Bazaar.  Crap.

On turn 2 I draw a Jet and Merchant Scroll for Ancestral.

On turn 3 he Cabal Therapies me, getting three zombies.  I FoW, pitching Gush.  He decides to not go for the kill and just Dread Returns a Platinum Angel.  On my turn, I Ancestral into no lands, but I do have Petal, Time Walk, and Brainstorm.  I decide just Walking isn't good enough, so I Petal into Brainstorm, which finds me another land to cast the Walk.  On my Walk turn, I Tendrils him out and Echoing Truth his Angel.

Game 2 he mulligans to two cards.  I mulligan once and play a Leyline.  My draw is slow, but against the mull to two I have plenty of time.

win 2-0; 1-0 matches


Round 2 vs Walter (Manaless Ichorid)

I know what I'm up against because I sold him Unmasks before the event.  Unfortunately, he wins the die roll and uses said Unmask to ensure a quick victory in game 1.

In game two I open up a hand with triple Leyline, Ancestral Recall, and no mana.  I mulligan that into a single-Leyline hand with mana.  On turn 2 or 3 he Reverent Silences my Leyline.   I untap, use a Gush to replay my Underground Sea, drop a Jet and play Necro.  I thank him for the life from Reverent Silence, Necro for 10 and win shortly after.

Game 3, Walter mulligans once and I draw the nuts.

Win 2-1; 2-0 matches


Round 3 vs Scott (Shop Aggro)

I win the die roll, and Duress seeing: Thron of Amethyst, Tangle Wire, Chalice, Cap, Wasteland, Wasteland, City of Traitors.  I take the Thorn and develop my mana.  He plays a turn 3 Cap and I think about Forcing it, but I realize I can just untap and play a sick Yawg Will.  The only dicey part is that my only tutor can't get Tendrils, because I'll be short storm/mana.  So I get Fastbond and play a bunch of Gushes and Brainstorms.  After looking at about 10 blanks, I finally find Tendrils or a tutor.

Game 2 I mulligan and get stuck on one land.  Scott draws a lot of disruptive elements, but no beats.  Against my board of Underground Sea and Mox Emerald, he finally drops a Juggernaut to accompany his Tangle Wire, Trinisphere, Sphere of Resistance, Strip Mine, Wasteland, and many mana sources.  OK, ya got me.

Game 3 I set up a neat situation where I can Hurkyl's Recall most of his entire board on his turn, leaving Timetwister as my only card in hand.  I draw Demonic Tutor and punt by tutoring for the wrong card (should have been Lotus for +1 mana/+2 storm), but it doesn't matter too much.  I Duress his post-twister hand and whiff seeing Platinum Angel, Platinum Angel, Karn, and Juggernaut.  I'm in control, but can't quite assemble a win.  After about 7 Brainstorms, Ponders, and Gushes, I find double Tendrils plus Confidant in the third extra turn after time is called.

Win 2-1; 3-0 matches


Round 4 vs Michael (Flash) - ID
Round 5 vs Dan (Flash) - ID


Top 8 vs Walter (Manaless Ichorid)

We meet again.  This time I lose the die roll.  Then I double mulligan.  I joke about how the early game (die roll) and mid game (mulligans) haven't gone so well, so the late game (turn 1) had better be really good.  Walter starts off with a Bazaar, pitching Grave Troll, Stinkweed, and Ichorid.  Scary.  On my turn 1, I killed him.

It came down to a point where I had a blue and black in my mana pool, Brainstorm, Tendrils, and Ritual as the only relevant cards in my hand, and a storm of 7.  If I just cast Tendrils, he'll still be at 2 life.  I'll have a bit of a life cushion, but against Dredge it won't last long.  I figure I'll Brainstorm, hoping to hit any Mox or Petal for the win.  Instead I hit Yawgmoth's Will... that'll do it.

In game 2, I mulligan and keep a hand of Extirpate, Brainstorm, Ponder, and 3 mana sources.  Unfortunately he has another one of my Unmasks to make that hand less awesome.  However, Walter goes through a third of his deck without finding any dredgers (even making great use of Emerald Charm to untap a Bazaar).  This gives me enough time to find Necro and go off.


Top 4 vs LSV (Tyrant Oath)

I keep a kind of loose hand that has Brainstorm, Ritual, Ritual, Yawgmoth's Will and 3 mana sources.  LSV wins the roll and Duresses my Brainstorm, following up with a Thoughtseize on Will.  Ouch.  We play draw-go for a couple of turns.  Luis DTs and passes with one mana up.  I figure he must have something good, so it's best to start a fight now.  On his end step, I Vamp for Ancestral and try to play it on my main phase.  Luis responds with his own Ancestral.  I Gush and Brainstorm in response but I don't find a Force.  Luis's Ancestral resolves, and mine gets forced.  However, I've found a Demonic Tutor off the Brainstorm.  With double Ritual still in my hand and the large number of spells we've played, I can Tendrils him out on the spot.

In game 2, Luis mulligans and then passes his first turn without playing anything.  (Turns out he kept double-Mox, double-Force hand.)  He draws an Island on turn 2.  After a couple of turns, Luis has pretty much recovered from his rocky start, and then I once again ripped Demonic Tutor to win immediately.


Finals vs Web (Tyrant Oath)

Web and I split in the finals.  As he mentioned, it was getting late.


This was my first time playing TTS (my last Vintage event was last summer) and it seems pretty solid.  Flash and Oath seem like the top decks right now; TTS fits between the two speed-wise, but isn't as targeted with hate cards.  I was definitely pretty lucky to pull off such absurd turn 1 wins, which is not what this deck is about, but it's nice to have that possibility.  The Gush/Brainstorm/Ponder engine is awesome... it's a good time to be a blue deck.

[XxtSundaybxX]

Your list is slightly different than mine, Im running tinker/jar and no merchant scrolls. I'm also not running the emerald or the ruby and i am running 1 empty over the 2nd tendrils. Have you tested a list like mine and if so do you prefer you list to it? How has it worked out for you?

[toor]

I was playing in my first Vintage tournament ever and it was a lot of fun.
I played flash which there were at least 6 other players playing.

I played one boseiju main and one in the board. It was pretty awesome for me all day. Slowing me down by a turn but providing inevitability and just as importantly threatening unstoppable wins so they were forced to act early.

I had the sliver sideboard which i boarded in pretty much every matchup it was definitely worth having.

2 Thoughtseizes main. Wish I had 4. DOnt understand how people are not playing some sort of duress or thoughtseize effects.

I was a little unlucky in my flash mirror so i missed the top 8. but it was an awesome experience.

Some of my favorite plays:
Manaless ichorid against something with angel. Ichorid attacks with 8 zombies bring his opponent to -1 (he has angel). He then flashes dread return on dryad arbor, then dread returns a flame kin zealot using arbor to oxidize the angel.

In my flash mirror I am on the play I survive my opponent resolving flash turn 1 (he gets Heart sliver and 2x virulent, while i played a virulent on turn 1). I then vamp tutor for elvish spirit guide (for the blocks!) and win like 10 turns later.

In the quaterfinals LSV playing against bomberman and facing about 6 damage with with 10 life. He had to burn is krosan reclamation to shuffle a lotus and was facing an EE on 2. As LSV begins to go off with will he says out loud he knows the opp is playing DSC. He eventually freezes for like 25 and casts timewalk. Then on his timewalk turn he is at 1 and he has exactly enough mana to cast tyrant then one more spell to bounce a mox. THis allows him to make mana to cast his second tyrant and then bounce his opponents whole board.

[Negator13]

hiryu, nice report and congrats on the finish. I like your list a lot. I just have a couple questions concerning your sideboard: What did you usually side out for Bobs, and in what matchups? Would you board them against GAT? Stax? anything else? Also, what was the random Snuff Out for? I'm assuming the Hydroblast was for Magus of the Moon/Blood Moon.

EDIT: Also, what's your reasoning for running the off color Mox Ruby over Mana Crypt? I understand that Ruby lets you painlessly cast turn 1 Bob, or turn 2 Scroll--> Ancestral without manaburn/coinflip damage, but Crypt is obviously the more powerful card and conveniently pays the 2 in Timetwister/Yawgmoth's/Tendrils' casting costs.

[jeffthefob]

Hi,

The following link is from Ryan Devine who covered the tourney at Eudo.

http://www.eudemonia.net/forums/ultimatebb.php/topic/34/20.html

Feel free to read it ^^ good stuffs.

[Webster]

hiryu, nice report and congrats on the finish. I like your list a lot. I just have a couple questions concerning your sideboard:

Eirik's list, which Brett ended up using as a starting point, is the list that I was using for a few tournaments in late 2007/ early 2008. I can answer some of the questions which Brett may agree with.

What did you usually side out for Bobs, and in what matchups? Would you board them against GAT? Stax? anything else?

Confidants usually come in against the mirror, GAT, stax, and most other decks running control/prison elements like duress and wasteland. Against shops, duress will usually come out for them. Against non-shop decks, card-disadvantage and bounce will usually come out such as mystical tutor, vampiric tutor, imperial seal, hurkyl's recall, a mana source, and sometimes echoing truth (not in this specific order).

Also, what was the random Snuff Out for? I'm assuming the Hydroblast was for Magus of the Moon/Blood Moon.

I never used snuff out, however, I would assume it's for GAT and shop aggro. Hydroblast would generally be for a blood moon/magus/other randomness such as pyrostatic pillar.

EDIT: Also, what's your reasoning for running the off color Mox Ruby over Mana Crypt? I understand that Ruby lets you painlessly cast turn 1 Bob, or turn 2 Scroll--> Ancestral without manaburn/coinflip damage, but Crypt is obviously the more powerful card and conveniently pays the 2 in Timetwister/Yawgmoth's/Tendrils' casting costs.

Mana crypt is a very good card; I am not disputing that. However, in this deck which wants to use necropotence, fastbond, and dark confidant to their fullest potential, having mana crypt is quite a liability. My friends and I who have played the deck have had mana crypt be a problem multiple times so we swapped it out for mox ruby.

[XxtSundaybxX]

@ Brett or Webster:

How do you like this list compared to the more bomb heavy list, becker's original list? Do the merchant scrolls perform better than having more bombs? I feel like list with Tinker/Jar and such is faster, is this true? Ive been wanting to include a few merchant scrolls into my list however i didnt want to cut bombs for them. If your running scrolls and cutting bombs have you tried gifts and regrowth?

Congrats on the finish it was just a matter of time until this deck started seeing results.

[LSV]

I too have played Ponder Long / Tropical Storm in a bunch of events, and I recommended that Eirik cut the Tinker and Jar when we were putting the deck together. I just found myself never wanting to draw Tinker, much less Jar, and figured that Scroll would be a good replacement. Tinker is more expensive and costs you more if it gets countered. Especially now that the deck plays Gush, I have relied less and less on the Draw-7s.

[hiryu]

Your list is slightly different than mine, Im running tinker/jar and no merchant scrolls. I'm also not running the emerald or the ruby and i am running 1 empty over the 2nd tendrils. Have you tested a list like mine and if so do you prefer you list to it? How has it worked out for you?

Yeah, I tested a little with a Memory Jar/Tinker list and then switched for the tournament when I saw Eirik's list.  I found Tinker/Jar kind of clunky... you never want to draw the Jar, and the Tinker is a little hard to cast with the lowish artifact count.  Like, I'd find myself asking if I really want to tap three lands and sac my Lotus to tinker for Jar, and the answer is usually no.  Merchant Scroll, on the other hand, is pure awesomeness.

Empty is fine, though in this format I think maybe it's better to go for the immediate kill.  Another nice thing about this build is the mana... you're solidly on two colors + Fastbond.  Adding red is certainly doable, but you'd lose some stability.

hiryu, nice report and congrats on the finish. I like your list a lot. I just have a couple questions concerning your sideboard: What did you usually side out for Bobs, and in what matchups? Would you board them against GAT? Stax? anything else? Also, what was the random Snuff Out for? I'm assuming the Hydroblast was for Magus of the Moon/Blood Moon.

I think the Bobs are mainly for Stax, but they're great against GAT as well.  Against Stax, I actually sided out all but one of my Gushes and Fastbond for them.  Maybe that's crazy, but my opponent had Orb of Dreams and stuff like that; I just didn't see it happening.  Bob is a better draw engine in that match and gets under Thorns, and after that I don't want a million fives in my deck.  The Snuff Out is just pure randomness on my part... thinking that sometimes you just want to kill a man.

Web has much more experience with the deck, so he's probably the one to listen to. 

EDIT: Also, what's your reasoning for running the off color Mox Ruby over Mana Crypt? I understand that Ruby lets you painlessly cast turn 1 Bob, or turn 2 Scroll--> Ancestral without manaburn/coinflip damage, but Crypt is obviously the more powerful card and conveniently pays the 2 in Timetwister/Yawgmoth's/Tendrils' casting costs.

Yeah, weirdly two colorless mana isn't a whole lot better than one in this deck, and the damage does hurt.  Usually when Will is involved you end up with plenty of mana.  I think Tinker is what pushes it over the edge; with Tinker I would totally want Crypt, but without it I could see going either way.

Just saw LSV's post... it's true, instead of draw-7s you have Gush into Brainstorm into fetch-land plus another Ponder or Brainstorm.  It's better than a draw-7.

[Campee]

Eric has crazy decks? =)

Next time will be even crazier!

[dkao]

Sorry for the delay but we will have the decklist up soon.  I'll make another post on this thread when we do.

[Webster]

Decklists have been posted HERE.

[piZZero]

I came into the tourney wanting to have some and surprise people with the Oath sb (which I did) was accomplished; I def. had lot of fun and surprised people.  But on the hindsight, I ended up boarding in Duresses and the lone echoing truth (against Tyrant Oath and Flash Mirror) more than boarding in the Oath transformational.  And I missed not having leylines.

Man... haven't u realized Orchard is number 1 tech against Oath?

[wyvernmonarch7]

walter here

i was playing dredge