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Author Topic: Keeper? (nah, I'll tosser after i'm done)  (Read 1046 times)
John Jones
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« on: August 16, 2008, 11:20:40 pm »

Hi, I was just wondering if I could ask you for deck advice.

In testing, my problem decks seem to be Painters, Bomberman, and Stragetic Slaver (this match really just comes to a stall and if they resolve will the generally win the game)

I was thinking, with the current meta, would dropping
4 AK
2 Intuition
2 Moat (to SB)
1 Ponder
and adding
1 Enlightened tutor
1 Yawgmoths Will
1 Demonic Tutor
2 Moxen
4 Thirst for Knowlege
(put delta in maybe 2x and making 3x strand)

Be better than my current version?

// Mana
    4 Flooded Strand
    2 Plains
    2 Island
    4 Tundra
    1 Underground Sea
    3 Wasteland
    1 Strip Mine
    1 Library of Alexandria
    1 Black Lotus
    1 Mox Jet
    1 Mox Sapphire
    1 Mox Pearl
    1 Sol Ring

// Creatures
    3 Exalted Angel
    3 Meddling Mage
    1 Platinum Angel
    1 Eternal Dragon

// Spells

    4 Mana Drain
    3 Swords to Plowshares
    4 Force of Will
    4 Accumulated Knowledge
    3 Moat
    2 Intuition
    1 Ancestral Recall
    1 Fact or Fiction
    1 Balance
    1 Tinker
    1 Brainstorm
    1 Merchant Scroll
    1 Mystical Tutor
    1 Ponder
    1 Echoing Truth

// Sideboard
SB: 1 Echoing Truth
SB: 1 Gaea's Blessing
SB: 2 Pithing Needle
SB: 3 Energy Flux
SB: 4 Orim's Chant
SB: 4 Extirpate


Also, would you board in Energy Flux against painters? Normally I just board in the 1 blessing 2 needle and 4 extripate
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2008, 11:55:09 pm »

Keeper is and has always been a multi-color Metagame Solution.

The first step in design is to identify your metagame, not simply what you find problematic.  Without that knowledge, you can't build an effective metagame solution.   Since the current type one metagame  tends to feature TPS and Slaver, I would focus your design efforts on combating those decks first.   Workshop decks and Fish decks are also relevant players.   

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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2008, 12:41:52 am »

In my gauntlet

I have the following decks

Stragetic Slaver (-1 misdirection +1 welder)
GrimLong
Workshop Aggro
Painters Servant
Bomberman
Elvish Prison (more of a pet deck but it is suprisingly good)

At the last tournament I went to I was 4-2 then I dropped. I lost to a very very lucky top deck of will in a painters match twice (both times he was deck next turn from an angel) and I lost to Bomberman (I boarded into combo stopping but he boarded into creature plan).

The meta was
18 blue (4 cs, 2 bomberman, 2 UB, 2 oath, 2 painter, landstill, 2 drain tendrils, keeper, 3cc, bob)
5 shops (me, 5c, 2 red, affinity)
2 combo (belcher, grim)
8 aggro (6 fish, sui, goblins)


I expcet a lot of Long, CS and Shop decks at the next tournament.

EDIT: Also, thanks for the imput.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2008, 12:46:40 pm »

As steve said i would aim for Slaver and TPS/Long with the maindeck, and other then that i'd test against:

U/W Fish or some other fish variant - Always worth testing against if you ask me.
Workshop aggro or stax - Choose the one you think will be worst for you! Smile
Ichorid - Well obv. Find out how much hate you need, or if it's better to just accept it as an auto-loss.

There's lots of decks you COULD test against, but most people don't have time to test against 20+ decks.

/Zeus
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