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« on: September 25, 2008, 06:08:03 pm »

Hi all,

After some weeks thinking about playing the BBS list with black discused here http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=36446.0, I finally took Jedi Mind Twist (aka I twist, You shout) to the september tournament of the catalan vintage league due to not having enough time to playtest de BBS list.

The deck shines against control and combo (which I expected to be all around) and the sideboard was prepared to fight U/W fish and Ichorid which had been top8ing the last tournament...


The top 8 list are published here, but for reference here you have my list:

4 island
1 swamp
4 underground sea
2 flooded
4 polluted
1 tolarian
8 SoLoMoxen+crypt

4 FoW
4 Drain
4 confidant
3 repeal
3 duress
3 Mind Twist
2 Sensei’s Divining Top

1 Demonic
1 Vampiric
1 Mystical
1 Ancestral
1 Walk
1 tinker
1 platinum
1 Will
1 Tendrils
1 Fact
1 Rebuild
1 ponder
1 brainstorm

Sideboard:

4 yixlid jailer
4 planar Void
3 energy flux
2 black knight
1 Hand of cruelty
1 darkblast

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I did some playtest on Friday night at a teammate home and went to the tournament, and decided to cut the 2nd han of cruelty to include darkblast, so that i can deal with welders.


Round 1 vs Marc Corbella with Pitch Long

1-   He opens with duress for a turn 2 necropotence, draws 13 cards, discard lands tinker, wheel and grim tutor.

I topdeck Fow, play confidant and pass, he playes some artifact mana and rebuild, which I fow, this is enough to stop him, draws 1 card (since he is at 4 and i have confidant) but finds nothing...

SIde: I look at my Knights... nothing comes...

2-  He goes swamp, sapphire, jet, brainstorm, duress duress (taking FoW and vamp), leaving me with mana duress and repeal.

I go undergroun duress taking ritual (he is holding a lot of mana), but he seems to draw onle mana and no bussines, confidant comes from the top and is too much advantage for him...

1-0 3 points

Round 2 Victor Gimenez with Drain Tendrils:

I don’t remember much of this round, but I think that both games game something like turn 3-4 twist with counter back up... (my side continues on the box...)

2-0 6 points

Round 3 Ernest sanchez with TKdeeznoughts

Ernest is a good friend, and I slept in his home the night before, so we know what are we playing against.

1- He goes tramogoyf, turn 1, duress tarmogoyf turn 2, but my sensei’s top brings me a tinker, and he cannot find the bouncer for platinum.

Side: here comes the first (and the only) card I sided in in the whole tournament (but never use it) darkblast comes to deal with his confidants.

2- he opens with confidant, and stifles my fetch, I never found black mana and my hand was something like: darkblast, twist, duress, tutor, will....

3- Very close match, time is called and in the fourth turn (mine) i’m at 2 and he has tarmo, condifant and counterbalance in play, I try to tendrils him for 10 to get a draw but he also had stifle GG.

 2-1 6 points


Ronda 4 Fermin Garcia aka Juzam Djinn with Intuitive (aka DT)

Good player and better friend again... we both know what we are facing.

1-   We did some turns of draw go, countering opoosing threads, he tries to resolve Will, I drain, he Fow, I FoW, EOT mystical to my will for the win.

Side: my knights look sadly at me...
2-   Don’t really remember, but he drew nuts in the early turns (ancestral, akk for 3...) and combos out.
3-   In this game I did  a major mystake, i’m in my turn and he is tapped after playing intuition and akk for 3 and had 5 cards in hand, I have twist and drain but played twist for 5 when I could have played it for 3 keeping UU for drain. He FoWs and get control of the match... time is called and in the last turn he plays Will, i look the top 3 cards with top, a FoW comes he had no counter back up and we draw.

2-1-1 7 points

Round 5 Manuel Navascues with U/R painters

1- He goes turn 2 painter&grindstone with FoW and pyro back up GG

Side: knights continue sleeping


2-  I open with duress: he is holding: library, mountain, mana crypt, ancestral, magus of the moon, and more blue stuff he cannot play, took ancestral and pass. He goes mountain crypt, magus (Fowed) and he never drew blue mana...

Side: I saw a welder so darkblast comes for a repeal.

3- He opens with land go, I play underground mox confidant, he plays land and grindstone which I let resolve, I play land mana crypt twist@4 he foW me too that’s game.
 
3-1-1 10 points

Round 6 Ruben Xicota with U/R painters

1- The first insane play: He open with underground ancestral in his upkeep, he goes volcanic grindstone. I play a couple of moxes, land and time walk, then play academy and Yawg, Will, replay walk draw a tone of cards and then mindtwisting him for the whole hand, GG.

 
Side: start thinking that knights are on strike

2- This envolves some draw go I resolve a confidnat but he had EE for him, he pyroblast my ancestral and fact, and resolves painter+grindstone but he had tu pass turn, I play a desperate tinker platinum but he is holding another pyro.


3- I go turn 1 confidant, turn 2 duress to a turn 3 twist leaving him without cards, a fer turns later tutor will for lethal tendrils.

4-1-1 13 points

Round 7 Roberto Lopez with Pitch Long

1- I  counter 2 early  bombs and on turn 3 he resolves necro for the win.

Side: Guess?

2-  He mulls to 5, I open with duress he is holding: lotus, vault, confidant, fact and something he cannot play... I take lotus and pass

He needs a couple of turn to find mana, so he was never on the match, I resolve confidant and win thanks to the card advantage.

Side: darkblast comes for his confidants (repeal out)

3- He opens with lotus, jet, duress (taking vamp), land, ponder (nothing good on the top), so he shuflles and draw another duress and take my FoW with it. Leaving me with lands, mox and a duress.

I draw ancestral (good luck), play duress on his only card (mana crypt) and draw confidant  mystical something that let my play confidant from my ancestral, then play confidant and pass.

He drew a ritual and passed (i know this from his report), in my upkeep I mystical for mana drain (nobody said this was a game for braves) and draw drain from confidant and a top. He drew tinker but my he knew i had mana drain and pass, confidant reveals lotus, and my draw step brings me a mind twist, next turn lethal tendrils FTW.

5-1-1 16 points I’m in 5th of swiis


Top 8 here it comes a chain of insane plays...

Quarters, Narcis Mir with Repeal Gifts:

Wette: underground mox tutor for ancestral pass

Narcis: library pass

Wette: ancestral (resolves) lotus, mox, tolarian, walk.
Wette: repeal on my mox, will appears and resolves: replay lotus ancesltral walk, sensei and vamp for twist.
Wette: twist for 6.
Narcis: cannot believe it.

Side: nothing.

2-  On turn 4 I play a twist with lotus and underground open. He drains, then I play will to replay an ancestra and twist. Taking out will and recoup, i don’t have FoW and with the drain mana he plays recoup on will for the win.

 
3-  I open with confidant, he developes mana and on my third turn I play twist@5 with FoW back up and that’s game.


Semis, Xavier Muntada with Slaver (intu akk engine), have you ever dream a split second yaw will? I have it.

1- On my 4th turn he is tapped after drawing 7 cards with akk and thirst, and i decide to go agressive cause if he untaps i’ll be dead.

I look top 3 with sensei, nothing relevant, crack fetch and look again, demonic appears, change top for demonic, cast demonic for will, and play it with UB floating and mana crypt open, he plays intuition for 3 FoW and counters will... no I can look with top hoping a FoW comes, or play tendrils for 16 leaving him at 2 with mana crypt in game. I decided to play tendrils.

His crypt doesn’t kill him and then he cast the third intuition to: will, tinker, gorilla shaman. I live the shaman, he takes his crypt and my moxes.

We stard draw going, he plays 2 welders, and stars beating, i’m drawing nothing but mana, but finally find ocnfidant, play it, now hi beats with welders and shaman stays untapped to block, confidante reveals double repeal, I bounce shaman and attack with confidant FTW (in 7 turns he drew 2 welders and 5 mana producers)


Side: darkblast in, repeal out.


2-   here it comes the greatest play of the day. He keept a hand with 1 fetch and no more mana, I counter his ancestral, and then he fow’s a confidant... he had a volcanic, 2 tormod’s into play and 3 cards in hand, I hace a tone of mana, confidnat and top... so the game is mine...

But i was so anxious for killing him early so that i can have a cigarrete or something before the other semifinal ends that I drew Yaw Will an thought (that’s done), so I convincely reveal it and ask, will comes?

Xavi said: oh god... you drew it, yes it comes.

So I pick my graveyard and then Xavi says: Fuck! What i’ve done!, i look on his side and saw 2 TORMOD?S crypt... (spli second rulez...) i play time walk, he cracks tormod’s in response, I respond with ancestralm he responds with tormod’s, i respond with mystical...

My mystical+ancestral brings me tinker, tinker for platinum FTW



Final: David Masip with Bomberman

1- He opens with library, I go land a lot of mana and top, he is outdrawing me with library so on turn three I look 3 wiht top, revealing repeal, another top, tendrils. Draw repeal and play it, draw the second top, then exchange the first top for tendrils, then i go replaying tops a couple of times to make somes torm, adn play tendrils leaving him at 2 lives...

He then goes down form library and stard developing mana... he plays trinket and tinkers for collosus (i have 3 turns thanks to tendrils). The first turn top 3 cards are: twist, land, mox. Draw twist he drains.

Attacks and passes, top reveals land, mox, and another twist. Try to twist him again but he drains. Attacks an passes. Now top reveals land mox, and repeal, play repeal, look again and Will apperars...

I play will, David looks with his top, nothing comes, cracks fetch (he is now at 1) look again FoW appears but he cannot play it... so lucky...

Side: what is this?

2- I go mana mox confidant. David opens with library again. I go land, mox, top, duress: He had a lot of business including FoW and 2 drains but only a tundra and a lotus as blue producers, i take lotus and pass.

He draws from library play tundra pass. I draw, play brainstorn, now my hand is FoWx3 mystical and repeal, I pass.

He draws from turn, from library and plays sapphire, ruby and sol ring. I play EOT repeal on his sapphire, in my turn mystical for Twist, change top for twist, play twist@7 double FoW back up, GG.

So I take and unlimited ancestral recall and my ticket for the final of the league.


Props:

1- Finding a deck that makes enjoy more than mono U.

2- Win with it.

3- Juzam Top8ing

4- My Foil DCI split second yawgmoth’s will

5- DCI reporter: for pairing me with combo and control all the day.


Slops:

1- Juzam losing in quarters

2- The judge asking for the state of the game when nobody asked him, my opponent and me didn’t have any problem, and while I was trying to resolve lethal tendrils...


Cheers,

  Wette (Miguel Angel Diaz)
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2008, 10:24:35 pm »

Miguel, thanks for the nice report! It was a pleasure to meet you in Madrid.

I noticed you basically only have Platinum Angel to Tinker for. Was this better for you than a Sundering Titan would have been? I have a very similar deck, but only have Titan to Tinker for, as I expect to face a lot of opposing blue lands, which I would of course destroy.

Are there any changes you would make to the deck and sideboard?
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2008, 03:12:17 am »

I like the list, mind twist can just be sooo good...but i'm wondering, why no gifts? It makes the storm kill easier, and if you include mind twist you can be sure to get two of the other cards Wink (Talking from experience)

Wouldn't old men be better then the knights anyway?

Counterbalance might be usefull for the board aswell, seing as you have Sensei's top (Edit).

Or you could just play more duresses anyway.

Grats on the finish! Smile

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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2008, 05:06:58 am »

Miguel, thanks for the nice report! It was a pleasure to meet you in Madrid.

I noticed you basically only have Platinum Angel to Tinker for. Was this better for you than a Sundering Titan would have been? I have a very similar deck, but only have Titan to Tinker for, as I expect to face a lot of opposing blue lands, which I would of course destroy.

Are there any changes you would make to the deck and sideboard?

It was very nice to meet you too! Sure in this tournament sundering would have been much better, but normally, in CVL I meet 1-2 ichorid, 1-3 fish 0-1 random aggro, that's why platinum was listed...

I think the change would be, at least include sundering in sideboard, to board in against control. No maindeck changes right now.

About the sideboard: the 8 cards against ichorid, are a personal obsssesion, i was tired of playing more "flexible" cards, like pithing, tormod's, EE, and still lose against ichorid. Maybe the optimal choice would be 4 jailers+4"more flexible" cards but...


I like the list, mind twist can just be sooo good...but i'm wondering, why no gifts? It makes the storm kill easier, and if you include mind twist you can be sure to get two of the other cards Wink (Talking from experience)

Never tried gifts in this list... But the slot was fighted with fact, I decided for fact cause I wanted non-confidant drawer.

Wouldn't old men be better then the knights anyway?

Counterbalance might be usefull for the board aswell, seing as you have counterbalance.

Or you could just play more duresses anyway.

/Zeus

Old men are better if there is diversity of fish builds... since we only have u/w fish knights shine... they are like undestructible moats...

 
@Zeus&JACO: for me the real question with this deck is: if play U/B or /UB/r (with EtW instead of tendrils and  pyros r&r side). I finally came with the U/B version cause the mana base was so good that improved the fish&stax match more than having acces to red...

Thanks a lot for the feedback
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