New to Vintage...sorta

[mans0011]

Greetings everyone, and happy christmas!

Anyway, my friend and I have been following vintage and the metagame for a few years now, but have never actually jumped in and PLAYED. We are changing that now and are going to proxy up a handful of the decks that interest us and once we figure out the archetypes that we like, will start accumulating the cards that we don't already have. I come to you now for suggestions on a few lists that might help us accomplish this. If I'm being too vague (sorry, been a long day!) please ask for clarification. At any rate, Starcity holds its Power 9 tournies in Richmond, right?

[mans0011]

So the deck that I'm looking at right now is TPS  http://www.deckcheck.net/deck.php?id=20536

Is this a good choice for a list? I kinda like it, and I'm a combo player at heart. I know that picking a vintage deck is almost all about the metagame and your proficiency with the deck, but I'm learning at this point. Any thoughts, suggestions or questions?

[Akuma]

TPS is a good deck, you get to play with most of the best cards in Vintage. I definitely recommend you proxy up some of the decks that look the most interesting to you. Deckcheck is a great resource, check out the decks that top 8 medium to large events (30 players and up) and see what you like, you really can't go wrong.

In the end, it will all depend on what you like. TPS is a bit like assembling a jigsaw puzzle every match, I'm not a big fan of doing that, so I don't typically play it unless it is a small event.

[mans0011]

Thanks for the input. What kind of deck do you like to play?

[Oath of Happy]

I'd recomend net decking some builds from Tops 8's, preferably the larger tournaments:  TPS, Ad Nauseam, Tezzeret, Control Slaver (on with Strategic Planning, one with Couriers Capsule), Ichorid, a good Stax deck (there are a ton of varietys, see if you can find a mono red one), Elves, and BUG Fish.  If youre new to competetive vintage I'd start with BUG Fish because its fun and pretty straighforward, but build up a good stax deck or two because thats its hard matchup and youll need to learn how to use the SB to win that matchup.  TPS takes a lot of practice and skill.  First you need to learn how to win with it while goldfishing.  When youve gotten that down pat, you go up against an opponent and get crushed.  With BUG Fish you have spell disruption, mana denial, and beats, plus its built to beat up on TPS and Drain decks which are the majority of the field.  Ad Nauseam is also a much easier deck to play than TPS.  I'm not trying to discourage you from TPS at all, but it is one of the hardest decks to play and to win a tournament with it you need to play it perfectly and know all 75 cards inside and out.  If you need help picking out some good decks to proxy up for testing PM me and I can send you some generic ones that I use for testing.

[mans0011]

I'd recomend net decking some builds from Tops 8's, preferably the larger tournaments:  TPS, Ad Nauseam, Tezzeret, Control Slaver (on with Strategic Planning, one with Couriers Capsule), Ichorid, a good Stax deck (there are a ton of varietys, see if you can find a mono red one), Elves, and BUG Fish.  If youre new to competetive vintage I'd start with BUG Fish because its fun and pretty straighforward, but build up a good stax deck or two because thats its hard matchup and youll need to learn how to use the SB to win that matchup.  TPS takes a lot of practice and skill.  First you need to learn how to win with it while goldfishing.  When youve gotten that down pat, you go up against an opponent and get crushed.  With BUG Fish you have spell disruption, mana denial, and beats, plus its built to beat up on TPS and Drain decks which are the majority of the field.  Ad Nauseam is also a much easier deck to play than TPS.  I'm not trying to discourage you from TPS at all, but it is one of the hardest decks to play and to win a tournament with it you need to play it perfectly and know all 75 cards inside and out.  If you need help picking out some good decks to proxy up for testing PM me and I can send you some generic ones that I use for testing.

Thanks for the insight. I'll definitely start doing that. Mind if I PM you the decklists I decide to proxy? You could tell me if they are really not that good or too out dated or whatever.

[Oath of Happy]

Sure, sounds good

[mr.grim]

try these out

oath=i like the b/g....tyrant......hellkite they are very good easy to run decks.
tps is a great deck and does well in most metagames and once ya got the groove of it you can play any other combo decks.
fish is a good call as well try the bug builds
and take a look at ad nauseam fun f'in time
as it was said to you before try deckcheck.net........