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Steve or Atog Lord Please Reply: 5CC and current meta
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limitedwhole
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Steve or Atog Lord Please Reply: 5CC and current meta
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February 04, 2009, 08:06:04 pm »
Hey been working on updating my list but not sure what is being played allot right now. Did have a revelation with Nether Void. It is broke. Instant win versus combo and super cantrippy type decks. What decks are being played right now? Also is slowing a bazaar dredge deck with wastelands and extirpating the bridge from belows enough?
Ancestral Recall
Time Walk
Time Twister
Braingeyser
Mystical tutor
2 cunning Wish
3 Disrupt
4 Mana Drain
4 Force of will
Balance
2 Swords to Plowshares (how much dark confidant played?)
2 Gorilla Shaman
Red Elemental Blast (Could be two if I move Nether Void to sideboard, how much combo is there?)
Mindtwist
YAwgmoth's Will
Skeletal Scrying
Demonic tutor
Vampiric Tutor
Nether Void (was lamenting how ivory mask sucks and mystic Remora just doesn't work unless you have a ton of pitch magic then remembered this card. Its sick.)
Regrowth
Crucible of Worlds
Black Lotus
Mox SApphire
Mox Pearl
Mox Ruby
Mox Jet
Mox Emerald
Sol Ring
Tolarian Academy (wasn't going to play this, but then i added nether void)
Library of Alexandria
3 City of Brass
2 Polluted Delta
Flooded Strand
3 Volcanic Island
2 Underground Sea
2 tundra
Island (ggrrrrr, magus, is he still played much?)
4 WAsteland
Strip Mine
i usually thought of nether void as a card that doesn't belong in weissman, and as a win more card with crucible out, but it is nasty against combo with their 6-8 duress effects. The idea of this deck is to force the combo player to play out his moxen early reducing his storm counts and exposing them to shaman. The disrupts and Nether void will auto win if he doesn't. If he does shaman them off the table. Void stops them from annoying you will duresses and kills all their rituals. Let me know what you think and if you have any changes that might be good.
Full Warning and demotion for trolling. -DA
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smasher
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Re: Steve or Atog Lord Please Reply: 5CC and current meta
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February 04, 2009, 09:15:46 pm »
This looks like a pile that would get crushed. Your game plan is to beat with mox monkeys??? Cunning wish seems out of place without any explanations for it. You have no maindeck bounce spell so in order to cunning wish for a storm card to win with you must first resolve one to bounce Nether void. This whole post is lacking content and belongs in another forum. It seems like you are fishing for someone to build you a deck and have listed a bunch of random cards in one list hoping for them to expand on and focus on a gameplan for you.
Fish decks play 12+ creatures mox monkey won't be connecting. Combo decks are just going to race you before you get nether void in play. Any combo deck that isn't storm based could rather easily work around nether void without even bouncing it.
I'm assuming extirpate is in the sideboard since you mention extirpating vs dredge. If you get nice draws for games 2 and 3 you can probably take down dredge. your maindeck has nothing to help other than swords on 2 ichorids so you are starting the match down a game.
I'd be willing to take this list seriously if had a little more input to your strategy or what style of deck you wish to construct.
-Smasher
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Quote from: MirariKnight on January 28, 2010, 04:06:59 am
Nether Void is absolutely terrible. I can't envision any game I've played with The Deck where I would have wanted everything to be mana leaked.
limitedwhole
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Re: Steve or Atog Lord Please Reply: 5CC and current meta
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February 04, 2009, 10:01:03 pm »
"This looks like a pile that would get crushed. Your game plan is to beat with mox monkeys??? Cunning wish seems out of place without any explanations for it. You have no maindeck bounce spell so in order to cunning wish for a storm card to win with you must first resolve one to bounce Nether void. This whole post is lacking content and belongs in another forum. It seems like you are fishing for someone to build you a deck and have listed a bunch of random cards in one list hoping for them to expand on and focus on a gameplan for you."
Well i can beat with monkeys. Pact of the titan works too. I am not playing any storm cards. I am not playing any bounce. Notice all the solutions in the deck. No i'm quite capable of buolding my own decks thanks.
"Fish decks play 12+ creatures mox monkey won't be connecting."
If they can keep them in play. Titan is pretty big too..
" Combo decks are just going to race you before you get nether void in play."
Note the 3 disrupts, 4 mana drain, 4 force of wills. mana denial, cunning wishs, tutors and draw. I highely doubt combo will "just" be doing anything.
"Any combo deck that isn't storm based could rather easily work around nether void without even bouncing it."
I doubt that. Kind of hard to win without mana, don't ya think.
"I'm assuming extirpate is in the sideboard since you mention extirpating vs dredge. If you get nice draws for games 2 and 3 you can probably take down dredge. your maindeck has nothing to help other than swords on 2 ichorids so you are starting the match down a game."
Fair enough not sure if this is true thats why i asked. How will they win if they can't use bazaars and have no bridges? i can play swords to plowshares as many times as i need to.
"I'd be willing to take this list seriously if had a little more input to your strategy or what style of deck you wish to construct."
fair enough.
Brian Weissman 1996
3 City of Brass
1 Island
2 Polluted Delta
1 Flooded Strand
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Strip Mine
4 Wasteland
1 Tundra
4 Volcanic Island
3 Underground Sea
Creatures
2 Gorilla Shaman
1 Morphling
Artifacts
1 Black Lotus
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring Instants
4 Brainstorm
1 Cunning Wish
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Skeletal Scrying
1 Stroke of Genius
1 Ancestral Recall
4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
1 Red Elemental Blast
2 Swords to Plowshares
Sorceries
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Mind Twist
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Balance
1 Time Walk
1 Regrowth Sideboard
1 Blue Elemental Blast
1 Circle of Protection: Red
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Tinker
1 Fire/Ice
1 Disenchant
2 Pyroblast
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Skeletal Scrying
1 Shattering Pulse
2 Gorilla Shaman
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Zuran Orb
i'm assuming you don't think this is a jankpile.
Peace.
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Re: Steve or Atog Lord Please Reply: 5CC and current meta
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February 04, 2009, 11:11:44 pm »
Edit: I think this is a troll post and is not deserving of serious responses.
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