Reliable antiques

[chrissss]

Reliable antiques 
Artifact

When Reliable antiques comes into play, draw a card.
You may pay  instead of paying Reliable antiques´ casting cost
"But it´s old!"

Basically a card without card disadvantage that helpes cards which need other colors to be more effective. I guess it could also be an enchantment, I just thought with all the colored artifacts nowadays.

thoughts?

[zeus-online]

A bit weak, looks like one of the rares that sticks around in the binder for an eternity....But then again, magic NEEDS useless rares..and who knows, it could be the next "donate"

/Zeus

[Anusien]

Doesn't Transguild Courier do what this card wants to do but better?

[zeus-online]

Not necessarily...this costs 2 less, and if all you want is an "all color" permanent, then it might be better. Also, this would allow people to play with 8 such cards if needed.

Maybe it should be worded differently though, like  mana cost and then "is all colors" in the text box.

/Zeus

[andrewpate]

Transguild Courier is at least a Hill Giant, so it's playable in Limited.  I simply cannot imagine any scenario in which I would want to play a blank Tsabo's Web just to get every color of permanent.  The fact that this pitches to any card in the Alliances cycle is hardly compelling.  I mean, this is sort of a cross between what Transguild Courier does and what Scornful Egotist does, so maybe that's something.  I would just rather it had some kind of effect instead of just sitting around.

[Harlequin]

Edge of Existance WWGGRRUUBB
Tribal Artifact Enchantment - Shapeshifter
You may play Edge of Existance for
When Edge of Existance leaves play, you may return target face up card that is removed from the game to your hand, if you do remove Edge of Existance from the game.
"Fool... if you want to see it, stop looking at it"

You could even give it some sort of activated ability like...
: Until end of turn, Edge of Existance gains shroud, loses all types and sub-types, and is colorless.

Or maybe break the RFG ability into two abilites to make them slightly more powerful:

When Edge of Existance leaves play, you may it from the game.
When Edge of Existance is removed from the game from anywhere, you may return another target card that is removed from the game to your hand.

[zeus-online]

I really like that idea, but why that manacost? Increasing it will only make it better (Think karn/Animate artifact etc.) I realise that this probably isn't a problem, but do we really want people to use it simply for the high mana cost? instead of using it for the colors.

/Zeus

[Anusien]

Harlequin: Your card is ridiculously inelegant.  I think you did that on purpose, but if you're designing a card primarily to turn on color-matters cards, that is going to be the focus of the card.  The ability needs to support that or be secondary.  That's why Transguild Courier was so good; it didn't need an ability because it was a card.

Maybe something like:
WURBG Artifact -
Artifact
CARDNAME is all colors.
5, sacrifice CARDNAME: Add WURBG to your mana pool.


Optionally you may add "When ~this~ comes into play, draw a card." but that puts a lot of text on the card.  It might be more elegant to add some sort of mana ability.  Maybe 1, Tap: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.

[chrissss]

My original thought was to not give it any abilities, It just needed to cantrip so people would consider using it.

I guess I could make it

Reliable antiques 
Artifact
 
When Reliable antiques comes into play, draw a card.
Reliable antiques is all colors.
"But it´s so old, what´s the point? "

[Anusien]

With Transguild Courier already existing, that card is significantly less exciting.  I don't think it can stand on its own without any abilities.

[Darkenslight]

What about adding " : Remove target artifact from the game.  Return it to play under its owner's control at end of turn."?  Or is that too eccentric?

[Anusien]

I don't see the connection or the reason for that ability.

[chrissss]

I could add

"multicolored spells cost one colored mana of your choice less to play"

wording is bad, but it would make them cheaper, if colored is too strong perhaps colorless is fine

[Darkenslight]

I don't see the connection or the reason for that ability.

Considering the name, I owuld have thought it was obvious, but here goes:

That artifacts disappear from time, and resurface many years later.  Hence the pseudo-Blink ability.