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« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2009, 01:33:28 pm » |
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Gifts was my favorite deck of all time. I loved the puzzle of creating the perfect pile that's a lose-lose for your opponent, especially without the training-wheels of Recoup. Even now, I almost always play a deck with a Gifts in it, because I love it so much.
Maybe I'm weird, but I really liked the Gifts vs pitchlong vs fish vs stax metagame.
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« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2009, 06:56:56 pm » |
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2003-2005 was tops. I agree that TnT was the most fun deck to play in the history of magic. After gifts started dominating the format, it all went downhill from there. Although that single card did make names for a lot of people in vintage, it doesn't really mean they were ever good to begin with.
People always used to say "if mana drain were ever restricted, I'd quit the game" but the truth is those people wouldn't have the first clue what to do in vintage if they couldn't play blue based control so they would just lose in every tournament if they didn't go out on top when they had the chance.
I imagine the decline in players is just the fact that people have grown out of magic. I know personally I only play at a large event or one that has another reason for me attending (such as seeing friends or whatever). The game has been around since 1993, some things can't really last forever.
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« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2009, 12:33:23 am » |
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People always used to say "if mana drain were ever restricted, I'd quit the game" but the truth is those people wouldn't have the first clue what to do in vintage if they couldn't play blue based control so they would just lose in every tournament if they didn't go out on top when they had the chance.
Travis, I think this statement is wrong. I would HATE if drain got restricted, but then I'd just play combo, and still win events. |
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« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2009, 04:32:08 am » |
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Since I started tourney Vintage with Bomberman post 5th Dawn, I really appreciate 2004-2006 as the most fun times. I was learning about the metagame, solidifying rules knowledge, etc.
There was a time that Oath Slaver Fish and Shops were the top decks, and that was fun. I did get tired of a period where everyone played Chalice or Null Rod (frowns for Oath Salvager player).
But I've yet to become bored with Vintage. I just shed a tear at Brainstorm getting restricted. (It made my Chalice for 1 worse...)
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« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2009, 12:39:08 pm » |
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People always used to say "if mana drain were ever restricted, I'd quit the game" but the truth is those people wouldn't have the first clue what to do in vintage if they couldn't play blue based control so they would just lose in every tournament if they didn't go out on top when they had the chance.
Travis, I think this statement is wrong. I would HATE if drain got restricted, but then I'd just play combo, and still win events. my statement was not applying to "all" drain players, only the ones who say they would quit the game if the card was restricted. |
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Rand Paul is a stupid fuck, just like his daddy. Let's go buy some gold!!!
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« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2009, 12:46:24 pm » |
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People always used to say "if mana drain were ever restricted, I'd quit the game" but the truth is those people wouldn't have the first clue what to do in vintage if they couldn't play blue based control so they would just lose in every tournament if they didn't go out on top when they had the chance.
Travis, I think this statement is wrong. I would HATE if drain got restricted, but then I'd just play combo, and still win events. my statement was not applying to "all" drain players, only the ones who say they would quit the game if the card was restricted. I'm sure that there are people who feel the same way about rituals and workshops though. I cannot imagine type1 without mana drain to be honest, the format has been centered around that card for so long. |
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« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2009, 11:26:50 pm » |
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We have discussed vintage as format with five pillars.
The Mana Drain archtype.
The Bazaar of Baghdad archtype.
The Dark Ritual archtype.
The Null Rod archtype.
The Mishra's Workshop archtype.
Now seeing as how I'm not a civil engineer (was but switched to electrical), I can safely say everything you once loved and cherished about the format will change if you eliminate just one of those pillars.
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Somebody tell Chapin how counterbalance works?
"Of all the major Vintage archetypes that exist and have existed for a significant period of time, Oath of Druids is basically the only won that has never won Vintage Championships and never will (the other being Dredge, which will never win either)." - Some guy who does not know vintage....
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« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2009, 12:33:16 am » |
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Ive made a deck that used all 4 of those archetypes once, ask jeff anand what it was like to lose to turn 1, black lotus metalworker, swamp, dark ritual, necropotence.
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« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2009, 01:39:45 am » |
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Ive made a deck that used all 4 of those archetypes once, ask jeff anand what it was like to lose to turn 1, black lotus metalworker, swamp, dark ritual, necropotence.
Only you travis. A sixth pillar consisting of monkey cage and war mammoth may be warranted. |
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Somebody tell Chapin how counterbalance works?
"Of all the major Vintage archetypes that exist and have existed for a significant period of time, Oath of Druids is basically the only won that has never won Vintage Championships and never will (the other being Dredge, which will never win either)." - Some guy who does not know vintage....
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« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2009, 01:38:55 pm » |
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...when people shamelessly flamed, prophesied, bitched, accused and elated on TMD. Hmm, I guess I've always liked Vintage  |
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« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2009, 02:19:18 pm » |
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I'm editing my response: RIGHT NOW!
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« Reply #41 on: June 02, 2009, 02:47:20 pm » |
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I most enjoyed vintage back before I had a job...because I could actually play  EDIT: When mana burn and combat tricks still existed. |
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« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2009, 01:58:32 am » |
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when a lion stood victorious on a pile of dead midgets.
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« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2009, 02:31:40 am » |
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when a lion stood victorious on a pile of dead midgets.
Has that happened yet? ^^ |
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« Reply #44 on: June 03, 2009, 02:44:26 am » |
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@Zeus-Online,
I think he's dreaming...
When did I enjoy vintage the most ?
Probably when Gro-A-Tog was the best deck in the format, right after lorwyn playing with 8 "duress" GAT. I truly think this time was vintages "Golden Age" as most people mentioned back then.
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« Reply #45 on: June 03, 2009, 03:15:22 am » |
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when a lion stood victorious on a pile of dead midgets.
Has that happened yet? ^^ Everyone knows the midgets won. |
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Team Meandeck Team Serious LordHomerCat is just mean, and isnt really justifying his statements very well, is he?
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« Reply #46 on: June 03, 2009, 11:59:31 am » |
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Gifts Era: Rogue decks could actually compete back then.
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I'm the only other legal target, so I draw 6 cards, and he literally quits Magic. Terrorists searching in vain for these powerful weapons have the saying "Bill Copes spitteth, and he taketh away." Team TMD |
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« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2009, 12:53:15 pm » |
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I liked the format when battlefield and exile weren't rumored...
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Somebody tell Chapin how counterbalance works?
"Of all the major Vintage archetypes that exist and have existed for a significant period of time, Oath of Druids is basically the only won that has never won Vintage Championships and never will (the other being Dredge, which will never win either)." - Some guy who does not know vintage....
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« Reply #48 on: June 03, 2009, 02:04:44 pm » |
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when a lion stood victorious on a pile of dead midgets.
Has that happened yet? ^^ Everyone knows the midgets won. lies, although I'd expect that from a midget sympathizer...COMRAD lordhomercat! |
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« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2009, 02:55:55 pm » |
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In the early days when decks like Verduran Recursion could run rampant. But have since learned to like an environment with more checks and balances.
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« Reply #50 on: June 03, 2009, 06:33:29 pm » |
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When the SCG Power 9's first started up, and there were parties at Josh's.
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P.P.S. I now realise that it is possible that you have mistaken Holland for Iraq as neither have weapons of mass destruction. |
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