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« on: September 01, 2009, 12:19:03 pm » |
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Blood Extractor BB
Creature - Vampire Spirit
Blood Extractor can't block.
Blood Extractor has haste if an opponent has 10 life or less.
Landfall - Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, you may return Blood Extractor from your graveyard onto the battlefield.
2/1 Could this have a use in Ichorid? With builds that play more lands, it seems a more reliable play than the deck's namesake on turn 2. You can discard it on turn 2 and still be able to play it on the same turn, or you can sacrifice it to Cabal Therapy and replay it on the same turn (and play another Therapy!). You don't have to have and remove another black creature. It actually stays in play after the end of the turn. He is also more likely to be relevant in the post sideboard games as well. Since he doesn't sacrifice at the end of the turn, applying early pressure is not as likely to be thwarted by a Tormod's Crypt effect. He is more easily castable than Ichorid as well. |
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AmbivalentDuck
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2009, 02:55:12 pm » |
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Just a quick note: Dakmor Salvage is an otherwise useless land with dredge 2. You can reliably insure that you'll draw and play a land if desired.
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the_lord_shaper
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2009, 03:16:45 pm » |
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This seems way cooler in other formats where you could actually play skullclamp.
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BruiZar
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2009, 03:24:34 pm » |
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Imagine having 2 or 3 of these in the graveyard and dropping a land. You can dread return pretty quickly this way. I think this definately has potential for ichorid in T1
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voltron00x
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2009, 03:29:54 pm » |
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Yes, this card will be very good. I can't see why it wouldn't see play, in some quantity. It supplements Ichorid and Narc very well.
Not only that, it may bring the archetype back in Extended, where the deck has been mostly irrelevant because it lost Ichorid (and was therefore wholly reliant on the Bridge combo, and lost to blue control).
This is an exciting and powerful card, if its for real.
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2009, 03:38:12 pm » |
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This would be insanely good in Dredge if it is real.
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2009, 03:39:36 pm » |
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What would you guys replace in current dredge decks with this card? Do you find yourselves topdecking (and actually drawing) lots of lands? I don't.
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AmbivalentDuck
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Exile Ancestral and turn Tiago sideways.
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2009, 03:43:31 pm » |
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This would be insanely good in Dredge if it is real.
It's a magazine preview. For sure real.  |
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Stormanimagus
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2009, 03:46:48 pm » |
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This card could also be good in a Sui-Black deck running Clamp and Bitterblossom. Imagine the Shenanigans you could pull with this. You should never be missing land drops if you have Skullclamp active and IF you have Skullclamp active and a couple of these dudes in the yard you should be able to replenish your army every turn. It also doesn't hurt that the last 1 or 2 alpha strikes should be hastey ones. Yeah this card has serious potential for Sui-Black decks. Another card I'm fascinated with for Sui-Black is Quest for the Gravelord: Quest For The Gravelord  Enchantment Whenever a creature is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, you may put a quest counter on Quest for the Gravelord. Remove three quest counters from Quest for the Gravelord, sacrifice Quest for the Gravelord: Put a 5/5 black Zombie Giant creature token onto the battlefield. This also seems like it could be solid for Sui-Black decks running Skullclamp. The only major Problem With Clamp is its opposition to Null Rod. Could a Sui-Black deck list be constructed that DIDN'T run the Rod? -Storm |
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voltron00x
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2009, 03:50:46 pm » |
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What would you guys replace in current dredge decks with this card? Do you find yourselves topdecking (and actually drawing) lots of lands? I don't.
The words "Petrified Field" come to mind... Or, remember the Crop Rot builds we all dismissed? This card plays very, very nicely with Crop Rot. |
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BruiZar
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2009, 03:52:39 pm » |
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I dont think quest for the gravelord has any potential in vintage. Its comparable, but harder to pull off than the Hidden cycle and that isnt played either.
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AmbivalentDuck
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2009, 04:04:30 pm » |
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For the most part, effects whose triggers you control are more playable. Compare Taurean Mauler to Quirion Dryad. Merely dropping a land isn't difficult.
Quest looks like a bomb in the aggro mirror and craptastic elsewhere.
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Stormanimagus
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2009, 04:16:03 pm » |
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Ok, So Quest is probably unplayable. But what about the Extractor in a Skullclamp Mono-Black Sui Deck? I'm already dreaming up a list, but I'd like to know if others are thinking what I'm thinking.
-Storm
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The Dream Police
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2009, 10:18:09 am » |
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There's already a thread on this in the Open forum my brothers and sisters.
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Adan
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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2009, 02:58:05 am » |
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Uhm... There is already something better if it comes to flashbacking Therapies and Dread Returns: http://magiccards.info/4e/en/33.htmlIt's way less situational. And it's not played anymore. This card looks cute on paper, but the scenarios are too much of a hassle to actually make this card playable. |
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Nyah!
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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2009, 03:10:27 am » |
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Uhm... There is already something better if it comes to flashbacking Therapies and Dread Returns: http://magiccards.info/4e/en/33.htmlIt's way less situational. And it's not played anymore. This card looks cute on paper, but the scenarios are too much of a hassle to actually make this card playable. One problem with that is Nether Shadow actually sucks. Happy to help. |
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Adan
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« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2009, 06:14:20 am » |
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One problem with that is Nether Shadow actually sucks. Happy to help.
Stunning rationality you have there, Vegeta. But I've noticed what insane synergy it has in combination with a Petrified Field (because then you will have a landdrop every turn by recurring Fields with each other). I guess it's worth a testing. |
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