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« on: August 31, 2009, 09:30:40 pm »

Trying to get more into vintage play, currently using this build for casual play and small local tournaments
Was my pure Timmy deck that I added some control to. Looking for improvements within a 50$ budget

Land 20
Volcanic Island
Steam Vents 2
Terramorphic Exspance 2
Island 10
Mountain 5

Creatures 13
Spiketail Hatchling 3
Cursecatcher 3
Razorfin Hunter 4
Gelectrode 3

Other Spells 27
Brainstorm
Ponder
Counterspell 4
Mana Leak 4
Echoing Truth 2
Boomerang 2
Sigil of Sleep 2
Curiosity 3
Lightning Bolt 4
Shock 4

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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2009, 07:10:43 am »

lose shock and pick up fire/ice.  Also, people have been using repeal with great sucess.  Plus, if your local tournaments are allowing proxies, definitly, use more volcaninc islands and pick up some fetchlands.

Also, force of will is just too good not to run.  You probably want to consider spending a little extra money to buy those
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2009, 08:47:57 am »

Try wee dragonauts instead razorfin, and add 2 psychopatic fury and 4 manamorphose. It worked very nice in legacy.
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2009, 06:57:21 pm »

Went 4-1 at th tourney 4 2-0 and 1 0-2 to mono red burn with the following rebuild, but still looking to improve

Land 20
Volcanic Island 4
Steam Vents 2
Flooded Strand 2
Island 7
Mountain 5

Creatures 13
Spiketail Hatchling 3
Cursecatcher 3
Razorfin Hunter 2
Grim Lavamancer 2
Gelectrode 3

Other Spells 27
Brainstorm
Mystical Tutor
Force of Will 4
Mana Leak 4
Echoing Truth 4
Sigil of Sleep 2
Curiosity 3
Lightning Bolt 4
Fire//Ice 4
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2009, 07:25:02 pm »

I don't think Mystical Tutor is any good; you'd probably rather another spell that just replaces itself in that spot.  Try Ponder or Sensei's Divining Top.
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2009, 10:20:16 am »

Merchant Scroll finds near everything Mystical Tutor does in that second list except for Lightning Bolt, but gets it right now. I'd definitely run Merchant Scroll. Finding a Force of Will as a Sorcery for U1 is huge...
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2009, 10:09:46 am »

Heres my Timmy list if you wanna compare.

Timppa

Lands:  17

4 x Volcanic Island
4 x Scalding Tarn ( new )
3 x Mountain
6 x Island

Multicoloured : 8

Creatures :

Gelectrode 4 x  
Razorfin Hunter 4 x

Red : 8

Creatures :

Grim Lavamancer 2 x

Spells:

Lightning Bolt 4 x
Shattering Spree 2 x

Blue : 27

Creatures :

Prodical Sorcerer 2 x

Spells :

Curiosity 4 x
Sigil of sleep 4 x
Brainstorm 1 x
Ponder 1 x
Fow 4 x   
Daze 4 x
Force Spike 3 x
Misdirection 2 x
Repeal 2 x

SB:

3 x Red Elemental Blast
4 x Crash
4 x Tormod's Crypt
4 x Null Rod

Oh ye, and im replacing something with fire // ice, havent decided yet though.
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2009, 04:33:29 pm »

First of all, there is nothing on the original list that cant be played in legacy... so why try to call this deck vintage?  Secondly, your list is really not going to get anywhere vs. "real" vintage decks.  If you want to play unpowered, you need to be playing power hate.  Thats the sad truth.  the first thing you need are four null rods, after that some number of chalice, gorilla shaman, or pithing needle.

Counterspell is really lackluster in vintage, its so far behind manadrain its not even funny.  i would cut them for forces, but thats $$$.  Even without the forces, something like negate, spellsnare, or the new zendikar counter are all superior.  Negate cant counter doods, but you already have lots of burn to deal with them.   Counterspell is too slow in a two color deck, and what you need is speed, since you will absolutely need to counter something on the first two turns.

Shock is really bad, and i really dont understand why i always see that in budget lists here.  first rule of vintage: never play a second-rate four-off.  Fire and ice, as another already suggested, is a solid alternative, since it can 2-for-1 and cycle in a pinch.

of course all of this is not really important if you are in a small meta made up of legacy decks with a sol ring and demonic tutor.
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