City in a bottle...Anti Bazaar?

[covetousrat]

I just came across this card, City in a bottle from Arabian nights

Card type: Artifact

Casting cost: 2

Oracle text: Whenever a nontoken permanent from the Arabian Nights expansion other than City in a Bottle is on the battlefield, its controller sacrifices it.
Players can't play cards from the Arabian Nights expansion.

This cards destroys Bazaars and probably Library of Alexandria and locks the out from the game.
The closest card to this will be Pithing Needle.

I understand that Pithing needle gives you more options and variates in the sideboard slot as it can be aimed at Bazaar, Time Vault etc. Playing Pithing needle means that your opponent can still play Bazzaar and wait for a bounce.

This card alone doesn't shut down Ichorid completely like all other anti Ichorid package. Its best to complement it with others.

Who knows your opponent is playing some Bazzaar and ARABIAN NIGHTS CITY OF BRASS or!! That will be a LOL. Caught with their pants down. I still think this is an interesting card and a surprising one.

[DuKeLiO]

I'm not sure, but I believe that it also have effect over the Chronicles and Rinascimiento cards with the scimitar simbol. The Rinascimiento ones are fairly common, specially for have a cheaper black border card.

[BruiZar]

It only applies to Arabian night city of brass, which is why i run DCI foils instead. I run it in the sideboard to diversify threats against ichorid. It is exponentially powerful against an ichorid player running AN Cities because 1 city in a bottle shuts down 8 lands. Its also somewhat affective against steel city vault where you can needle their fetch and bottle their cities

[honestabe]

I beleive there is also a card that changes a card's set.

Combo???

[BruiZar]

I beleive there is also a card that changes a card's set.

Combo???

Do tell me which one, because it doesnt exist

[Doomsday]

10/4/2004: City in a Bottle only affects cards with the Arabian Nights scimitar symbol on them, or permanents that are copies of those cards. It does not affect reprints of cards that originally came from the Arabian Nights expansion.

So my Chronicles City of Brass gets is screwed, but my 8th Edition one is OK?

[Yare]

10/4/2004: City in a Bottle only affects cards with the Arabian Nights scimitar symbol on them, or permanents that are copies of those cards. It does not affect reprints of cards that originally came from the Arabian Nights expansion.

So my Chronicles City of Brass gets is screwed, but my 8th Edition one is OK?

Correct.

[Killane]

10/4/2004: City in a Bottle only affects cards with the Arabian Nights scimitar symbol on them, or permanents that are copies of those cards. It does not affect reprints of cards that originally came from the Arabian Nights expansion.

So my Chronicles City of Brass gets is screwed, but my 8th Edition one is OK?

that's right.

this seems like a pretty narrow sideboard choice given its less than huge impact. If you're going to devote single-minded slots to Dredge, wouldn't Jailer or Leyline be better choices?Also, it's not that much better than Pithing Needle at what it does, and Needle can come in against many different archetypes. Also, having the advantage (hitting city as well as bazar) negated by your opponent playing less Pimp versions is not great IMHO

[Oath of Happy]

Pithing Needle costs 1 less mana which is huge g3 vs Ichorid if they keep in chalice of the void.  This card is awsome however and looks much cooler in a deck than Pithing Needle does, but if your looking for a card to help win, pithing needle is 99.9 percent better.

[voltron00x]

I used to play this WAAAYYYY back in the day, when everyone played decks based on Ernham / Serendib / Juzam and City of Brass to cast everything.  Pretty sure its 100% obsolete at this point.

[BruiZar]

10/4/2004: City in a Bottle only affects cards with the Arabian Nights scimitar symbol on them, or permanents that are copies of those cards. It does not affect reprints of cards that originally came from the Arabian Nights expansion.

Chronicles is a reprint, so it will not hit chronicles (nor rennaisance)

The only right deck to run this in is workshop.

[Yare]

10/4/2004: City in a Bottle only affects cards with the Arabian Nights scimitar symbol on them, or permanents that are copies of those cards. It does not affect reprints of cards that originally came from the Arabian Nights expansion.

Chronicles is a reprint, so it will not hit chronicles (nor rennaisance)

This is incorrect.

205.3. A spell or ability that affects cards from a particular set checks only for that set’s expansion symbol. A card reprinted in the core set or another expansion receives that set’s expansion symbol. Any reprinted version of the card no longer counts as part of its original set unless it was reprinted with that set’s expansion symbol.

So, you just look at what is physically printed on the card. Chronicles with a scimitar is considered Arabian Nights, Chronicles with an anvil is considered Antiquities, and so on.

For proxies, I would venture that a card that was only found in one printing (like Bazaar of Baghdad or Mishra's Workshop) would have to have that expansion symbol. For other cards that were reprinted in other sets (City of Brass), I would guess they would be assumed not to have the symbol, unless they were drawn right on the card.

[BruiZar]

wow, i always thought it didnt work that way. So every old-art city of brass except for DCI foils will get the axe with city in a bottle!

[covetousrat]

I think the foil City of Brass from Junior Super Series isn't affected by this.

[Killane]

correct- it has the dci symbol, not the expansion symbol.

[zeus-online]

Well it sucks that my FBB city of brass are strictly worse then 7th edition WB city   But honestly, this card sucks. Have heard of terrible blow-outs with this card vs. pimp red decks featuring all AN mountains though.

[honestabe]

I beleive there is also a card that changes a card's set.

Combo???

Do tell me which one, because it doesnt exist

Someone told me about it at one of my first magic tournaments, because I had a city in a bottle for trade.  Maybe he was just busting my balls.  Probably was...

[Diakonov]

For proxies, I would venture that a card that was only found in one printing (like Bazaar of Baghdad or Mishra's Workshop) would have to have that expansion symbol. For other cards that were reprinted in other sets (City of Brass), I would guess they would be assumed not to have the symbol, unless they were drawn right on the card.

Judge: "Hmmmm... I dunno, this depiction you've drawn here looks pretty scimitar-like."
Player1: "Well of course it does, from that angle.  Here, just...look at it like this again."
Player2: "That is the only angle.  There is no other-"
Player1: "FINE."
System: Player1 puts Dandân into his graveyard from play.
Judge: (sigh)

[TopSecret]

This also hits Old Man of the Sea, Library of Alexandria, and old school Kird Apes.
Anything else besides the above, Bazaar, and older City of Brass doesn't see enough play in Vintage to consider.

Hypothetically, if you found out that this one guy ran all Arabian Nights basic lands, you could be a total player hater and sideboard this card.

If Library ever gets unrestricted, this card could be more relevant.

[TheShop]

Serious-
This card is too narrow.  Even Nev Disk would be better at destroying permanents from the side-board than this.  I would rather run Pithing Needle and yard hate to stop Dredge or a Wasteland to stop library.  Old Man is not popular enough to devote a sideboard card to specifically blowing it up.

Less Serious-
I will keep this card in mind next time I run into a vicious War Elephant.  Another positive, this card is decidedly better than Apocalypse Chime (War Elephant>Grandma Sengir).  If only one of these blew up Legends permanents, we could stop that annoying Floral Spuzzem from taking so much time to make up its mind.

[urweak]

Man, if this sees more play I am going to have to drop my Elephant Graveyard's for Swarmyard's in my changeling deck. Hopefully that same person doesn side Apocalypse Chime to or my Didgeridoo's will be screwed.