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« on: April 09, 2010, 08:23:16 am » |
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 Fish players have an answer to all the legendary oath creatures now!  Forget it, misread the card. |
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« Last Edit: April 09, 2010, 06:04:19 pm by Eastman »
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Kiriyuu
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2010, 08:26:54 am » |
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I don't think they do, it's "under your control" so this does nothing to your opponents Iona.
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Troy_Costisick
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2010, 08:29:28 am » |
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Aw crap. Misread the card. NVM, this card like all the others in this set is garbage.
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RecklessEmbermage
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2010, 11:32:24 am » |
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Looks like a really bad lightning greaves.
EDIT: Good point by DubDub though.
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« Last Edit: April 09, 2010, 11:42:22 am by RecklessEmbermage »
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DubDub
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2010, 11:40:06 am » |
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Would have been good in standard with Mulldrifter:
T2 - this
T3 - evoke Mulldrifter, draw 4, swing for two in the air.
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2010, 11:46:08 am » |
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That won't work. The doppelganger won't have "entered the battlefield" and so it won't get the 2 cards being a copy of Muldrifter. Same sort of rules application why dropping a Phyrexian Dreadnaught into your graveyard with a Volrath's Shapeshifter already in play doesn't make you sac 12 power worth of toughness.
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RecklessEmbermage
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2010, 11:48:18 am » |
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Looks like a really bad lightning greaves.
EDIT: Good point by DubDub though.
EDIT2: Err. Of course doesn't work that way. Back to being a bad lightning greaves. |
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DubDub
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2010, 11:59:33 am » |
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That won't work. The doppelganger won't have "entered the battlefield" and so it won't get the 2 cards being a copy of Muldrifter. Same sort of rules application why dropping a Phyrexian Dreadnaught into your graveyard with a Volrath's Shapeshifter already in play doesn't make you sac 12 power worth of toughness.
Oh, that's too bad. So this thing is truly terrible. |
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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zeus-online
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2010, 05:39:18 pm » |
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P. Dreadnought just got yet another friend.
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Eastman
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2010, 06:02:40 pm » |
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P. Dreadnought just got yet another friend.
Mmm yes they are both "when enters the battlefield" effects, so they trigger simultaneously. As active player you can stack dreadnought sac first then this effect. When this resolves you get a 12/12 which you can then sac to pay the subsequently resolving dreadnought trigger. Very cool. Quite playable at 2 mana. Has an advantage over stifle too in that you don't risk getting 2-for-oned by a counterspell. Interesting interaction with flash too. Unless I'm missing something? |
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The Atog Lord
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2010, 07:36:57 pm » |
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I don't believe that this would copy Enters the Battlefield abilities. So, with a Dreadnought, you could either sacrifice the Clone to keep the real one around, or just let the real one die and attack for 12.
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Evenpence
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2010, 09:06:48 pm » |
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So this thing combos with dreadnaught and pitches to force? oh shi-
Might be good?
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[17:25] Desolutionist: i hope they reprint empty the warrens as a purple card in planar chaos |
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2010, 09:19:04 pm » |
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I don't believe that this would copy Enters the Battlefield abilities. So, with a Dreadnought, you could either sacrifice the Clone to keep the real one around, or just let the real one die and attack for 12.
This seems quite good, especially due to the ability to run Null Rod, which masknought never could |
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DubDub
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2010, 09:37:42 pm » |
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So this thing combos with dreadnaught and pitches to force? oh shi-
Might be good?
So does Stifle, and Stifle is good without a Dreadnaught. Transmute Artifact doesn't currently work does it? (i.e. the robot only hits play if you pay enough?) But you could Flash Emrakul in, then Bury Emrakul still during Flash's resolution and resolve the copy trigger. 15 damage and 6 permanents torn up. |
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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Evenpence
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2010, 10:54:56 pm » |
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So this thing combos with dreadnaught and pitches to force? oh shi-
Might be good?
So does Stifle, and Stifle is good without a Dreadnaught. Transmute Artifact doesn't currently work does it? (i.e. the robot only hits play if you pay enough?) But you could Flash Emrakul in, then Bury Emrakul still during Flash's resolution and resolve the copy trigger. 15 damage and 6 permanents torn up. You could run both. Ladies and gentlemen, we just broke Vintage. No, just kidding. Seriously though, this card might be okay, I guess. "Until end of turn" is pretty lame, but whatever. |
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[17:25] Desolutionist: i hope they reprint empty the warrens as a purple card in planar chaos |
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mistervader
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« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2010, 02:04:33 am » |
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Emrakul won't work. He's kinda legen... wait for it... dary.
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« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2010, 03:41:55 am » |
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Emrakul won't work. He's kinda legen... wait for it... dary.
Yes he would if you flashed him in. While flash is resolving Emrakul enters and leaves play. Then RE triggers and becomes a copy of emrakul. Which in turn, wipes their board. Plus flash and him get shuffled back in. It's kinda nuts really. |
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mistervader
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« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2010, 04:52:31 am » |
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Hmm... I can see how that works. Clever. Now, here's to unrestricting Flash...
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