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gamegeek2
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« on: August 08, 2010, 08:05:37 pm »

A while back, Steven Menendian pointed out in one of his (Premium) articles that Preordain would be great in the "gro" deck he had been playing around a year ago. However, he also pointed out that, in a metagame with Lodestone MUD decks, such a deck would not do well.

I came up with a list, and wondered what you guys would think about it.

// Lands
    1 [DDE] Swamp
    1  Forest
    4  Misty Rainforest
    3  Polluted Delta
    1  Island
    3  Underground Sea
    2  Tropical Island

// Creatures
    1  Inkwell Leviathan
    4  Dark Confidant
    3  Tarmogoyf

// Spells
    1  Tinker
    3  Thoughtseize
    1  Yawgmoth's Will
    1 [V09] Sensei's Divining Top
    2  Duress
    1  Vampiric Tutor
    1  Mox Ruby
    1  Hurkyl's Recall
    1  Nature's Claim
    1  Time Vault
    1  Brainstorm
    1  Ponder
    1  Mox Jet
    1  Mox Emerald
    1  Mox Sapphire
    1  Black Lotus
    1  Voltaic Key
    1  Ancestral Recall
    1 [JGC] Demonic Tutor
    4  Spell Pierce
    4  Force of Will
    1  Gush
    1 [JGC] Regrowth
    1  Merchant Scroll
    4  Preordain

// Sideboard
SB: 2  Hurkyl's Recall
SB: 3  Nature's Claim
SB: 2  Trygon Predator
SB: 4  Leyline of the Void
SB: 2  Sower of Temptation
SB: 2  Yixlid Jailer

In many ways, it's similar to the winning deck from GenCon, except for a few key differences:

-Maindeck Goyfs over Predators
-Less artifact mana
-4 copies of Preordain
-No Jaces
-Gush and Regrowth

The sideboard is definitely tentative.

I have several questions:

-I feel Jace would be a good addition, but I'm not sure I have enough mana to support him, and also, what would I cut?
-Are there enough artifacts to make Tinker (and Inkwell) worth it?
-Should I try to fit Predators in the main? I definitely want to keep at least 2 Goyf, though.
-Is 4 Preordain too many (though I definitely want some in there)
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2010, 04:32:19 pm »

Well,It seems this topic has come up before and I have been working on this deck on and off for a while now. I went with a budget build seeing as how I do not own any P9 yet and actually preffer putting together a deck with cards I actually own, but will of corse replace the few cards I have to with the necessary proxies if I were to enter an event in which proxies are legal.
I wanted to stay clear of Jace,TMS and any inclusion of Vault/Key. I usualy play TPS but I have been seeing some decks M.Soly has put together and I was inspired Smile
Mostly by the U/G/B color combination and how great Nature's claim seems to be in the current meta.

-Cards that would be proxies and auto-includes are: Ancestral recall,Mox jet,mox sapphire, mox emerald,black lotus,and timewalk.
Without further ado,here is my list:

Maindeck:
4 polluted delta
1 flooded strand
1 scalding tarn
1 misty rainforest
3 underground sea
1 tropical island
1 breeding pool(I only own 1 T.island and this works just fine.)
2 island

4 chrome mox
1 sol ring
1 mana crypt
1 tormod's crypt
1 sensei's divining top

3 quirion dryad
4 dark confidant

4 force of will
4 duress
2 thoughtseize
4 spellpierce
1 echoing truth
4 preordain
2 impulse
1 gush
1 brainstorm
1 ponder
1 mystical tutor
1 demonic tutor
1 vampiric tutor
1 imperial seal
1 merchant scroll
1 yawgmoth's will
1 regrowth
SB:
2 Relic of Progenitus
1 pithing needle
2 yixlid jailer
2 extirpate
1 tinker
1 Inkwell leviathan
1 Thada Adel, Acquisitor
2 trygon predator
2 nature's claim
1 slaughterpact

I have been reading about lightning bolt and REB to fight Jace,TMS and such but I do not think it is necessary to splash another color and open up yourself to wasteland in order to win this match-up. I want to stay away from any other color if possible. Thats what the creatures and all the disruption is there for Wink

Any thoughts and comments welcome.
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