Infinite combos.

[Ghost]

Ok, I'm playing gorger w/ sliver queen in it. If my opponent gains "infanite" life do they have to choose a  number. I'm asking this becase if that's true and they decide to gain 10 billion life I can necromancy EOT and make 12 billion slivers. Thanks.


EDIT: Spelling in the topic.

[BrokenNut]

Yes they have to choose a number of life to gain. And you will also have to choose a number of slivers to make. So if they cannot repeat thier infinite life combo, you will be able to kill them, provided they don't do something nasty like respite or tangle.

[Mage of Dreams]

Heres the rule:

421 - Handling "Infinite" Loops
421.1 - Occasionally the game can get into a state in which a set of actions could be repeated forever. These rules (sometimes called the "infinity rules") govern how to break such loops. [CompRules 2003/07/01]
421.2 - If the loop contains one or more optional actions and one player controls them all, that player chooses a number. The loop is treated as repeating that many times or until the other player intervenes, whichever comes first. [CompRules 2003/07/01]
421.3 - If the loop contains at least one optional action controlled by each player and actions by both players are required to continue the loop, the active player chooses a number. The nonactive player then has two choices. He or she can choose a lower number, in which case the loop continues that number of times plus whatever fraction is necessary for the active player to "have the last word." Or he or she can agree to the number the active player chose, in which case the loop continues that number of times plus whatever fraction is necessary for the nonactive player to "have the last word." (Note that either fraction may be zero.)
Example: One player controls a creature with the ability ": [This creature] gains flying." Another player controls a permanent with the ability ": Target creature loses flying." The "infinity rule" ensures that regardless of which player initiated the gain/lose flying ability, the nonactive player will always have the final choice and therefore be able to determine whether the creature has flying. (Note that this assumes that the first player attempted to give the creature flying at least once.) [CompRules 2003/07/01]
421.4 - If the loop contains only mandatory actions, the game ends in a draw. (See Rule 102.6.) [CompRules 2003/07/01]
421.5 - If the loop contains at least one optional action controlled by each player and these actions don't depend on one another, the active player chooses a number. The nonactive player can either agree to that number or choose a higher number. Note that this rule applies even if the actions could exist in separate loops rather than in a single loop. [CompRules 2003/07/01]

Shawn

[DEA]

there is no such thing as infinite in magic, just arbitrarily large
your opponent has to state how much life he's gaining, even if it's 1 googolplex

[RoadTrippin]

To finish up, the only loops that can actually be infinite are those that you have absolutely no way to end (read: Dragon with no other target in graveyard). All other loops are not infinite, but instead endlessly repeatable. Btw, so so glad my Sliver Queen "tech" caught on.. keep rockin' with that.  

[Pago]

I have a question for Dragon.dec in general that run sliver queen...

where do they get off colour mana? They have no way to float Green, White, or Red... (maybe green)

[BrokenNut]

Why would they need it? You put the Sliver Queen in the yard while doing the loop through either compulsion or bazaar, or Buried Alive it in earlier. Then when you generate your 2000 mana, you target the Sliver Queen with the Animate Dead. When she comes into play, you use her ability to make 1000 sliver tokens. Then say go, and on your next turn, swing for the win. No need for off color mana since you don't hard cast it.

P.S. Unless you are completely luck and get the 5-mox, Sliver Queen draw of course, heh.