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« on: February 12, 2004, 09:48:01 am » |
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I was considering the idea of an X/X creature for X in Green but the recent feedback to my Good Green Common thread suggest that simplicity is often confused with boring.
As a result I think I can add a twist and make a White card. White is traditionally weak with mid-sized creatures.
Lynch Mob X Creature - Townsfolk Lynch Mob is White When Lynch Mob comes into play, target opponent gains X life X/X
The idea is that you get a little time (life) as the Mob forms but then they'll come for you. Trample is a possibility.
For some reason I like the idea of a Lynch Mob for 0.
I can't see it being cast for less than 3 very often and it isn't that good at higher casting costs. However a 3/3 for 3 or a 4/4 for 4 is a powerhouse in White these days so I have left Trample alone.
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Lynch Mob XW Creature -- Townsfolk Mob 1/1 Lynch Mob comes into play with X +1/+1 counters on it. Whenever you gain control of Lynch Mob, target opponent gains X life.
Changes Matt-heavy use of common sense sadly lacking in the original Jebus - proper wording
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2004, 10:23:31 am » |
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Maybe you should have to pay the X with white mana. Otherwise, maybe it should be
Lynch Mob XW Creature -- Townsfolk Mob (there is at least one Mob already!) 1/1 Lynch Mob comes into play with X +1/+1 counters on it. When Lynch Mob comes under your control, target opponent gains X life.
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2004, 10:35:17 am » |
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Agreed. We don't want Kobold-like creatures in this fine establishment  I don't think White gets efficient large creatures anymore. Matter of fact, I dont think White gets large creatures at all other than the odd Angel or Dragon/Wurm (which are either overcosted or have mhuge drawbacks). The only 3/3 for 2W and 4/4 for 3W are Haunted Angels and Ageless Sentinels, both with drawbacks much more massive than a little lifegain for the opponent. (A 2/2 for 1W is obviously no problem, however). Just stating history facts, though. I don't believe this is overpowered and I like Matt's version.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2004, 04:14:10 am » |
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Changed to Matt's version (at the expense of the 0/0 creature for 0)
It's hard to argue with perfection.
It is a pretty good mid-range creature but I hardly think it is overpowering.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2004, 10:41:24 am » |
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You could keep the 0/0 for 0 option by going with something like:
Lynch Mob X Creature - Townsfolk Spend only White mana on X. Lynch Mob is White When Lynch Mob comes into play, target opponent gains X life X/X
Of course, nothing wrong with Matt's wording, except one minor nitpick.
"When Lynch Mob comes under your control..."
This phrase is awkward. Do you mean Comes into play under your control? It's always going to come into play under someone's control. That someone is going to always be "you" (you being whoever it came into control under) so the extra text seems unneeded. Unless there was something else you were going for.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2004, 04:36:09 pm » |
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You could keep the 0/0 for 0 option by going with something like:
Lynch Mob X Creature - Townsfolk Spend only White mana on X. Lynch Mob is White When Lynch Mob comes into play, target opponent gains X life X/X
Of course, nothing wrong with Matt's wording, except one minor nitpick.
"When Lynch Mob comes under your control..."
This phrase is awkward. Do you mean Comes into play under your control? It's always going to come into play under someone's control. That someone is going to always be "you" (you being whoever it came into control under) so the extra text seems unneeded. Unless there was something else you were going for. Two Points: 1. That would force this to be in only 100%-white decks. No one likes that. 2. I was going for "don't Control Magic a Lynch Mob". Should it be worded, "When you gain control of Lynch Mob"?
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2004, 04:44:41 pm » |
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You could keep the 0/0 for 0 option by going with something like:
Lynch Mob X Creature - Townsfolk Spend only White mana on X. Lynch Mob is White When Lynch Mob comes into play, target opponent gains X life X/X
Of course, nothing wrong with Matt's wording, except one minor nitpick.
"When Lynch Mob comes under your control..."
This phrase is awkward. Do you mean Comes into play under your control? It's always going to come into play under someone's control. That someone is going to always be "you" (you being whoever it came into control under) so the extra text seems unneeded. Unless there was something else you were going for. Two Points: 1. That would force this to be in only 100%-white decks. No one likes that. 2. I was going for "don't Control Magic a Lynch Mob". Should it be worded, "When you gain control of Lynch Mob"? 1. Understandable. 2. "Whenever you gain control of Lynch Mob..." would be the appropriate text for that type of effect.
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2004, 02:49:43 am » |
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Wording changed to "Whenever..."
I can live with no 0/0 for 0 in order to keep the card simple (elegant). I think the card is balanced as it manages to be both good and bad in my estimation. I think that means that it sucks less badly than other White mid-range creatures. It is about as good as it gets for White in Limited, although even that isn't that good.
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2004, 10:27:44 am » |
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Well monowhite got a 3/4 nontapper for 3 in Darksteel. This isn't quite as good but it's still useful. It's a damn sight better than Grollub, for instance.
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2004, 07:40:26 am » |
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2004, 12:42:56 am » |
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Screw it, I feel like this is done, so I'm not going to wait for dandan to get off his hiney. I mean ass.
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