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Ifflejink
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« on: February 22, 2004, 11:26:50 pm »

At the old TMD, this deck was in deveopement as a 1.5 deck, but it was horifically slow and inconsistent. My build utilizes the same Egg/Helm of Awakening engine, but in a much faster and more consistent way. The average goldfish is turn 2, but turn 1 wins happen fairly often.

Easter Tendrils:
//Mana
3 Glimmervoid
4 Gemstone Mine
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Black Lotus
1 Lotus Petal
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
4 Dark Ritual
//Draw/Tutoring
1 Mystical Tutor
3 Spoils of the Vault
1 Demonic Consultation
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Ancestral Recall
4 Thoughtcast
//The engine
4 Helm of Awakening
4 Chromatic Sphere
4 Skycloud Egg
4 Mossfire Egg
4 Shadowblood Egg
4 Darkwater Egg
1 Yawgmoth's Win
//Kill
2 Tendrils of Agony
//Disruption
4 Duress
Sideboard:
4 Xantid Swarm
3 Cabal Ritual
4 Naturalize
4 Disenchant

Obvious Problems: 1. No maindeck disruption. 2. Chalice for 1/Null Rod=Game 3. Has the regular weaknesses of Storm combo decks.
Questionable card choices: 1.Thoughtcast: I have almost never had to pay more than 1 mana for this. They end up being Ancestrals 2-5. 2. Cabal Ritual: Usually, you have Helm of Awakening in play. Cabal Ritual then becomes Dark Ritual+, as threshold is very easy to obtain. 3. No draw-sevens: They conflict with the draw engine too much, and they use too much mana, even with a Helm in play.

Any and all constuctive commentary welcome; test the deck before posting.

EDIT: Moves Cabal Rituals to sideboard. Added four maindeck Durres.
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2004, 11:46:46 pm »

I would love to spend 5 hours testing your deck for you... but there seems to be a teeny weeny little problem you can see without testing.

Your deck has 0 disruption, and 0 protection for the combo. How can you EVER win against a control deck? It's not going to happen.

You have a boatload of stuff to bring in post board, but that will slow you down really bad with no draw 7s...

You HAVE to resolve a helm. If they duress your helm you lose. If they force your helm you lose. If they play a trinisphere you lose. If they play a pillar you lose.

You can't just put up a random list and say "OMG this is broken, test ie before you post about it". There is nothing to test here, move along...
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2004, 01:07:57 am »

I agree with Smash, no disruption means you lose to nasty things that WILL resolve with no opposition from you. Perhaps you could fit the Xantids or Duress in the main?

Or maybe I am completely wrong about the deck, perhaps you could give us a little information on how well the deck operates against control/ aggro control/ decks with permission/disruption/hosers? Unless I am missing something here, looks like you lose to many commonly played cards.
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2004, 11:21:07 am »

I already addressed the fact that there is no maindeck disruption. The maindeck is very tight right now, and the only card I would take out for maindeck Durreses is Cabal Ritual. BTW, al that you said I already addressed. "This deck has the weaknesses of any Storm deck." That means it looses to Pillar, Trinisphere, Chalice, Sphere of Resistance and Null Rod. Often, though, you can win before those crads are even in play. Please, test the deck before posting. Otherwise the post just ends up as a repetition of an already established fact. BTW, there is now disruption maindeck.
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2004, 01:27:44 pm »

Quote from: Ifflejink
I already addressed the fact that there is no maindeck disruption. The maindeck is very tight right now, and the only card I would take out for maindeck Durreses is Cabal Ritual. BTW, al that you said I already addressed. "This deck has the weaknesses of any Storm deck." That means it looses to Pillar, Trinisphere, Chalice, Sphere of Resistance and Null Rod. Often, though, you can win before those crads are even in play. Please, test the deck before posting. Otherwise the post just ends up as a repetition of an already established fact. BTW, there is now disruption maindeck.


This does not have the weakness of other storm decks. It dies to a single duress or FOW on helm. Without helm, you can do _NOTHING_. Other storm decks can draw more cards from draw 7's etc.

Don't give me crap about testing your pile of eggs. It is your job to test your deck. If you don't want criticism, don't post a decklist.

You had that much spare mana you could move mana sources out of maindeck? When do you side in rituals? I am seeing 18 mana sources main.. again, you better hope to god you get a fast helm.

In combo decks you should never really have to side in and out mana sources, it means you have too many/too few. There are a _FEW_ exceptions like vs. certain control/lock decks with rector trix I would side out a mox diamond as it was only useful on turn 1-2 kills and not on the longer term kills I was planning.  But taking out 3 mana sources from a list you presented? That seems pretty harsh.
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