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Author Topic: Combo style, Will it work?  (Read 927 times)
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« on: February 23, 2004, 10:01:02 pm »

Combo

1 Minds Desire
2 Brain Freeze / Tendrils of Despair
1 Retract

Counters

4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
2 Stifle

Utility

3 Cunning Wish
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Wrath of God
1 Rack and Ruin

Drawing

1 Ancestral Recall
1 Skeletal Scrying
1 Wheel of Fortune
1 Memory Jar
1 Time Spiral
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Demonic Consultation
1 Windfall
1 Stroke of Genius

Broken

1 Yawgmoths Will
1 Tinker
1 Mind Twist

Mana

1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Emerald
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Grim Monolith
1 Chrome Mox
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Sol Ring
1 Strip Mine
3 Wasteland
3 Underground Sea
3 Tundra
2 Polluted Delta
1 Flooded Strand
1 Island
1 Swamp
1 Plains

Sideboard

1 Rack and Ruin
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Disenchant
3 Red Elemental Blast
1 Coffin Purge
1 Stifle
-- and um, little help.

OK, so I was -really- bored at work tonight and this idea just kinda popped into my head. Starting with a somewhat Keeper looking build, turn the win condition into a storm card like Brainfreeze (which is what I was originally planning on using). So with a standard Keeper array of counters, 4 Mana Drains and 4 Force of Wills, we can hopefully protect the -Brainfreeze- and counter any serious threats.

To build up a storm count high enough to deck someone with brainfreeze is gonna take a lot of spells. That's where Minds Desire and Retract come in. This deck plays so many low casting artifacts, Retract + Drawing/Draw 7's + Yawgmoth's will should be enough alone to get off a ridiculous Brain Freeze, but toss in a Minds Desire beforehand and it get's silly. I don't know whether to go 1 Tendrils 1 Brainfreeze, 2 Tendril's, or 2 Brain Freeze's yet though. I know Tendrils requires less of a storm count to win, so I think it's probably the better choice.

I'm hoping to use the sideboard as an extension of the deck, that's why I run 3 Wish's, and the sideboard is all Instants. I do need some help here though, so please give me some ideas. Possibly more Counterspells, but I need to put some more thought into it.

As always, thanks in advance for any advice, and thanks for taking a look.

-Sauce
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2004, 10:14:59 pm »

Other than the fact that there's the "1" under the number of posts you've submitted, it's pretty obvious you haven't been here before  Smile

Search these forums for "long.dec" - you'll see you're not the first to have thought of this idea.  However, I do commend you for coming up with this deck on your own - long.dec was a seriously feared powerhouse, capable of winning turn 1.  Because of the deck, 2 cards were restricted: Lion's Eye Diamond and Burning Wish.  (Yes - this kind of deck abused LED so badly that it was restricted.  Go figure.)

To answer your question: yeah, this kind of deck would kick serious ass.  DO search for long.dec and other combo-related forum threads here - you'll get some good ideas.

Enjoy!   Smile
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2004, 10:15:02 pm »

Why would you ever try to play that many spells at once in a deck that looks so much like Keeper? You can just play a normal Storm combo and do it turn 2-3 instead of whatever indeterminate turn you find your Retract on and finally cast a Storm spell.

Edit: Wow. That'll teach me to assume everyone knows what Long/TPS/DeathLong/Draw7.dec are.
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2004, 12:14:22 am »

Well I'm about to go look up Long.Dec, thanks Colder for the info.

Now as to playing 'so many spells' my thought process to putting this thing together was something like -

With all the mana accelerants - Mox's, Lotus, Grim Monolith, Mana Vault, Crypt, Sol Ring etc. It should be able to get off an early Mind's Desires (using some search/draw) which would then trigger some draw 7's into opening up the whole deck and even possibly a Yawgmoth's Will to open up the graveyard.

The tinker is to get out the Memory Jar, although you're right about the retract, since I have 3 Cunning Wish's I might as well put 1 sideboard.

Anyway, this deck could very well be garbage, I don't know... like I said, I thought about it at work and decided to see if anyone else thought there was some potential.

Now it's off to look at some other Combo decks, for some inspiration.
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