Suicide Black for and Underpowered Metagame

[Morfaroth]

Hey all, I've been working on a build of Suicide Black, Looking for advise, Here goes the build:

4 Nantuko Shade
4 Hypnotic Spectre
4 Phrexyian Warmachine
4 Withered Wretch

4 Sinkhole
4 Hymn to Torach
4 Duress
1 Stripmine

1 Demonic Tutor
1 Demonic Consultation
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Mindtwist
2 Powderkeg

4 Dark Ritual
21 Swamp

So, A little explination is in order for some choices:
First of all, this is a very underpowered metagame, I've seen parts of
the power 9 once, and the person with them had no idea what he was
doing. The majority of the decks are either aggro.

No masticore? I don't own them, But eventually... Same goes with Negators
Withered Wretch is here because the only combo around here is
Dragon, and the occassional reanimator.

Any Advise would be appriciated

[Raven Fire]

Any Advise would be appriciated

Here is some honest advice: "Don't play Sui in an aggro heavy environment."

If, for some reason, you decide to continue down this path you will need to get some Masticores and you should swap out 4 Swamps for 4 Wastelands.

[jazzykat]

Play parfait Mu ha ha .

Suicide has a crummy go of it vs. Aggro.

A fast combo deck should also put you in the winners column vs. aggro.

Don't know much to say except go with wastes(unless there aren't any duals in you area either), make sure you have access to creature removal, contagion, smother, edict and good luck.

[Morfaroth]

Ah, Maybe I should explain a little more. There is mostly aggro, But that's
the newer players, there is still a fair amount of control from the players
that know how to build decent decks. Also, Yes there are very few people
with duals, So wastelands would be, Well a waste.

[Raven Fire]

Even if it's mainly the newer player who have aggro decks, I still wouldn't play Sui if aggro made up the majority of the field.  It's just too risky; it doesn't take all that much skill to beat Sui with a janky beatdown deck.  Also, Wastelands are only a waste if almost everyone else is playing mono-colored decks.  Even then it's still not too bad as your mana base is so stable.  There may not be too many duals, but there has to be some other non-basics (CoBs, man-lands, pain-lands, or even artifact lands) you can hit.

[DEA]

i've lost to janked up as hell random aggro packing weird shit i had to read using suicide
too much of a gamble

just to reinforce the idea

[mogote]

If you're facing a lot of aggro you might consider using 4 Powder Kegs MD. I always found them useful to get rid of little creatures.

[HuntedWumpus]

First off, if your a playing in an Unpowered and often newbish enviorment i would not suggest suicide. Mainly beacuse sui has a bad match against sligh and other aggro, especially if you start running negators. I would suggest making a deck change. If you are set on being an aggro player i would consider giving a good sligh or Budgety version of aggro  a test. Another choice would be to give Budget Chalice Black a test. I could help you tec that build out for aggro and i belive you could have alot of success. The choice i would recomend is to move over to the next level and give control a try. I am a powered player, but i have a friend who has been working on Budget GAT. Ive helped him out alot and the deck is having more success than it should. Anyway ide be happy to help you construct a deck if you want to make a jump twoards being a better player. Drop me PM or AIM if you are interested.

Good Luck

[wonkey_donkey]

I agree with the chalice black idea - this gives you a far better game against sligh decks and some control strategies. Another option would be to head for an unpowered neo-void idea, although zherbus is the man to ask about that. With deed, trinisphere, chalice, damping matrix, and mishra's factories as available options you can certainly put up a fight against aggro. It is an easily metagamed deck, is the point I am trying to make. You'd probably fare better with that than with straight sui, in any case.

Tom

[Morfaroth]

Thanks for all the responses. Yeah, I should probably run another deck
(I've done well with Dragon, Oath, Sligh in the past) I mainly just got a
few of the cards for Suicide and wanted to give it a try here.