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« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2004, 09:02:31 am »

Wrath was a bad hoser.  Bad hosers are excused certain eccentricities. It's not like BWM's card said 'sacs a black permanent' or anything...

Twister and Tornado were targeted destruction. That's flavorful for green, in a way. Nature''s pure force can destroy things. But it can hardly make people sacrifice their loved ones.
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« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2004, 10:03:43 am »

Now that's an argument ad populis. If nature's force can destroy things, like pin-pointedly removing a farmer from behind his plow, then it should most certainly be able to just randomly blow across a countryside, lifting up barns and cows.

Saying 'loved ones' is so irrelevant here.

Red provides the misguided rage, green provides THE FAT and part of the flavour.
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« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2004, 08:37:23 pm »

Cheesy flavor text idea:
When they crawl on you, you start to fall apart.
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« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2004, 05:57:34 am »

I really want this to be GreenRed...

Black gets all the fun...
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« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2004, 06:14:48 am »

So far, we have 4 people against this being GR, and 2 in favor of it. Since one of the people in favor of it is the card's creator, and one of the people against it is me, it won't go.

So I guess we have a standstill until at least 2 more ppl speak out in favor of it's GR-ness (at least 1 of whom should be Matt Smile), or until you change the colors.
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« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2004, 09:36:51 am »

No, my arguments are the only valid ones, so it should be GR  Smile

Or: if this doesn't become GR, you can forget about getting a signed Kaervek's Torch from me  Wink
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« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2004, 10:54:51 am »

There isn't any valid reason why this should be GR.  Red does random effects (such as not choosing what to make your opponent sac).  Black makes your opponent sac stuff.  Green doesn't cause sacrifices and Green isn't random!
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« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2004, 01:10:26 pm »

I wouldn't mind either GR or BR or even mono-red. However, I do have a SLIGHT preference for BR.
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« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2004, 04:29:13 pm »

why not try BG
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« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2004, 03:53:05 am »

That's a valid suggestion, really.

Black for the fact that it's a permanent Edict
Green for the fact that it's in insect, a Xantid-warm-like thing, and everybody seems to want it to be green.

We already have Bayou Locusts, though....

even so, I'm liking this at 1BG. OPinions?
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« Reply #40 on: March 26, 2004, 08:53:06 am »

This is just like Floral Spuzzem, combined with Misguided Rage. I am a firm 1GR proponent.

I always associated BG with rot. So this doesn't seem BG to me.
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« Reply #41 on: March 26, 2004, 10:00:25 am »

This isn't like Floral Spuzzem at all. It's a ton more like [card]greater harvester[/card], which is in Darksteel--you can't get more current than that.
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« Reply #42 on: March 26, 2004, 10:49:13 am »

there is no sense in arguing BG, because there are insects in black, therefore making the green obsolete.

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« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2004, 04:48:14 am »

Quote from: Jacob Orlove
This isn't like Floral Spuzzem at all.


How is it not like spuzzem at all? It destroys when not blocked.

Quote from: GerryMander
there is no sense in arguing BG, because there are insects in black, therefore making the green obsolete.


There is no sense in arguing against GR, since there are insects in green, therefore making the black obsolete?

This is getting us nowhere.
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« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2004, 10:57:58 am »

green has insects
black has insects AND this ability!

its like saying green has beasts, and blue has beasts, so lets give green a counterspell!
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« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2004, 12:26:05 pm »

Green is still the color I feel this should be in...


Red starts beginning doubtable more and more...



Hmz, maybe make it BRG... (with a little extra to warrant the extra cost)
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« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2004, 12:36:08 pm »

BRG

Hmm. I like it. You could give it either flying since it'll be a real bitch to play turn 1 (or even 2).
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« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2004, 11:38:08 pm »

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its like saying green has beasts, and blue has beasts, so lets give green a counterspell!


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perhaps gerrymander, green does have a counterspell

i see no reason why this cant be BG they both have insects and black has edict like abilities.
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« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2004, 03:03:52 am »

oh, it can be BG. I'd allow BG. I'd definitely allow BGR.
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« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2004, 08:56:51 am »

I absolutely do not see why this should be black. Does black have anything that is required for this card, but that can't be provided by red or green?

Sigh. There I go again.

BGR should make this a 1/2 flyer.
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« Reply #50 on: March 30, 2004, 01:40:56 pm »

I think it's too powerful as a flier...


It makes itself unblockable (kinda) and have the opponent sac each turn...



and Bram, you're a sick sick man to think of playing this on turn one, since it requires at least 2 restricted cards... (Hmm, I'm gonna try to think up one that requires none)
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« Reply #51 on: March 30, 2004, 03:27:31 pm »

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(Hmm, I'm gonna try to think up one that requires none)

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