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We had 68 players for our 5th big Type One tourney in Paris. A lot of powered decks and some good french players were attending. The tourney starts at 11AM, and we've planned 7 swiss rounds and a single elimination Top8. Top8 at the end of the Swiss is : 1. Slavery 2. Modular 3. Wallamies 4. Stax 5. TNT 6. Vengeur Masque 7. Stax 8. TNT Quarter Finals. Slavery 2 - 1 TNT Modular 2 - 1 Stax Vengeur Masque 2 - 0 Wallamies TNT 2 - 0 Stax Semi Finals. Slavery 2 - 0 TNT Modular 2 - 1 Vengeur Masque Finals. Slavery 2 - 1 Modular Decklists1 - Slavery (aka. "Toad.dec") - Pierrick Mode 2 Island 5 Moxens 1 Black Lotus 4 Mishra's Workshop 4 Volcanic Island 1 Sol Ring 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mana Vault 1 Tolarian Academy 2 Polluted Delta 1 Bloodstained Mire 1 Mountain 1 Tinker 1 Wheel of Fortune 1 Timetwister 1 Ancestral Recall 3 Mindslaver 4 Goblin Welder 4 Chalice of the Void 4 Force of Will 4 Thirst for Knowledge 4 Brainstorm 1 Time Walk 1 Memory Jar 1 Duplicant 3 Gilded Lotus 1 Fact or Fiction 1 Pentavus 1 Memnarch SB: 3 Rack and Ruin SB: 2 Triskelion SB: 2 Platinum Angel SB: 1 Tormod's Crypt SB: 1 Gorilla Shaman SB: 3 Trinisphere SB: 3 Red Elemental Blast 2 - Modular (aka. "DDE") - Thomas Bucourt Withheld per request.3 - Wallamies - Olivier Ruel (unpowered) 1 Mind Twist 2 Pernicious Deed 1 Powder Keg 4 Swords to Plowshares 4 Brainstorm 3 Impulse 1 Fact or Fiction 4 Duress 2 Gaea's Blessing 4 Counterspell 2 Mana Drain 1 Dismiss 1 Misdirection 4 Force of Will 1 Morphling 1 Ophidian 3 Shadowmage Infiltrator 1 Strip Mine 1 Library of Alexandria 4 Underground Sea 1 Scrubland 3 Tundra 3 Tropical Island 1 Island 3 Flooded Strand 4 Polluted Delta SB: 1 Damping Matrix SB: 2 Energy Flux SB: 1 Hydroblast SB: 1 Misdirection SB: 3 Chill SB: 3 Diabolic Edict SB: 1 Skeletal Scrying SB: 1 Masticore SB: 1 Null Rod SB: 1 Circle of Protection: Red 4 - Stax - Husson Francis 4 Tangle Wire 4 Smokestack 4 Sphere of Resistance 3 Trinisphere 4 Goblin Welder 2 Fire/Ice 3 Thirst for Knowledge 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Tinker 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Timetwister 1 Mindslaver 1 Karn, Silver Golem 1 Triskelion 1 Memory Jar 1 Sol Ring 5 Moxens 1 Mana Vault 1 Mana Crypt 1 Black Lotus 4 Volcanic Island 2 Shivan Reef 2 Flooded Strand 4 Ancient Tomb 4 Mishra's Workshop 1 Wasteland 1 Strip Mine 1 Tolarian Academy SB: 1 Tormods Crypt SB: 2 Pyroblast SB: 2 Geth's Grimoire SB: 1 Viashino Heretic SB: 4 Rack and Ruin SB: 2 Winter Orb SB: 2 Blue Elemental Blast SB: 1 Hydroblast 5 - TNT - Christophe Richard Withheld per request.6 - Vengeur Masque (aka. "Potager.dec") - Ly Alexandre 1 Strip Mine 2 Flooded Strand 3 Island 4 Forest 4 Tropical Island 4 Wooded Foothills 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Black Lotus 1 Time Walk 2 Stifle 4 Brainstorm 4 Illusionnary Mask 4 Survival of the Fittest 4 Force of Will 1 Sylvan Library 1 Gigapede 1 Gilded Drake 1 Squee, Goblin Nabob 1 Sylvan Safekeeper 1 Phage the Untouchable 1 Uktabi Orangutan 2 Quirion Ranger 4 Birds of Paradise 4 Phyrexian Dreadnought 4 Volrath's Shapeshifter SB: 1 Stifle SB: 2 Misdirection SB: 2 Blue Elemental Blast SB: 2 Tormod's Crypt SB: 1 Viridian Shaman SB: 1 Waterfront Bouncer SB: 1 Oxidize SB: 3 Xantid Swarm SB: 2 Naturalize 7 - Stax - Oberto Fabrice 4 Mishra's Workshop 1 Tolarian Academy 4 Volcanic Island 2 Wasteland 1 Strip Mine 2 Ancient Tomb 2 City of Traitors 2 Shivan Reef 4 Goblin Welder 5 Moxen 1 Black Lotus 1 Tinker 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Timetwister 1 Wheel of Fortune 4 Trinisphere 2 Mindslaver 1 Mana Vault 1 Memory Jar 4 Triskelion 1 Lotus Petal 1 Sol Ring 1 Mana Crypt 4 Tangle Wire 1 Duplicant 3 Smokestack 1 Platinum Angel 2 Karn, Silver Golem 1 Grim Monolith 2 Powder Keg 1 Time Walk SB: 2 Defense Grid SB: 3 Tormods Crypt SB: 2 Stifle SB: 2 Hurkyll's Recall SB: 2 Pyroblast SB: 2 Rack and Ruin SB: 2 Chalice of the Void 8 - TNT - Berly Olivier 4 Juggernaut 4 Goblin Welder 1 Solemn Simulacrum 1 Squee, Goblin Nabob 1 Quirion Ranger 1 Gemini Engine 1 Sundering Titan 1 Genesis 1 Duplicant 1 Arcbound Ravager 1 Triskelion 1 Platinum Angel 1 Anger 1 Karplusan Forest 4 Wooded Foothills 1 Gorilla Shaman 3 Blood Moon 4 Survival of the Fittest 4 Trinisphere 4 Moxens (no Sapphire) 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 1 Memory Jar 3 Mishra's Workshop 1 Ancient Tomb 4 Taiga 1 Strip Mine 4 Wasteland 1 Mountain 3 Forest SB: 3 Red Elemental Blast SB: 3 Tormod's Crypt SB: 3 Rack and Ruin SB: 1 Naturalize SB: 2 Artifact Mutation SB: 1 Elf Replica SB: 1 Pentavus SB: 1 Goblin Sharpshooter Breakdown soon too  <3 Wompaslave 
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2004, 06:28:19 am » |
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Hmm. That's 24 Workshops in the T8 (assuming the Modular deck ran them as well). Would you people please stop trying to break it even further? I don't want them restricted now that I finally have a set 
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2004, 06:42:44 am » |
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Hmm. That's 24 Workshops in the T8 (assuming the Modular deck ran them as well). Would you people please stop trying to break it even further? I don't want them restricted now that I finally have a set :( Don't worry, Bramikins, it's not nearly as close to Kenny Logins' favorite Zone as Mana Drain is. (49 Workshops vs. 77 Mana Drain, before this weekend.)
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2004, 06:58:50 am » |
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Yes, 24 Workshops in the Top8 (more precisely 23 because one TNT had only 3). I don't think the card is really broken though, obviously  The guy playing Modular asked me to keep his decklist secret. All I can say is that he was playing with Workshops, maindeck being UB with RG and W cards in the sideboard (4 Glimmervoids and 4 Cities). I'll post the rest of the Top8 soon  The "Wallamies" deck is adapted from an old extended deck designed by Wallamies. Olivier Ruel, the guy who was piloting it, is a strong french player, with multiple Pro Tours appareances. The deck is not that great, but skills help a lot ...
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2004, 07:19:41 am » |
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Disclaimer: <3 Toaddy. h8 decklist secrecy. ("h8 sin, <3 sinner", for the Christians in the peanut gallery) The guy playing Modular asked me to keep his decklist secret. Yes, but why? Presumably, the most competitive locals already saw it. He already got whatever the second place prize is. In all likelihood, the list will be different before the next tournament (even if he plays the same archetype!), so metagaming against him would be silly (and it looks like there's more than enough artifacts in your meta anyway). In fact, it has just as much benefit making the most aware opponents think they know what he's playing if he just switches to another powerful deck for next time. So I find no detectable reason for secrecy, seeing as his tech clearly wasn't that amazing--he didn't win. Additionally, if his list is published with flashy lights around the edges, he will not only escape eternal damnation, but will also have the happy knowledge that he has a pioneering list in a new archetype, which will obviously earn him endless supplies of sex from Magic groupies. DOWN WITH POST-TOURNAMENT DECKLIST SECRECY!
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2004, 08:26:40 am » |
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I'm surprised that Olivier showed up and Antoine did not with their enormous stuffed animal tokens.
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2004, 08:37:37 am » |
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Antoine was here, too. We had a pretty high number of great french players on the tourney, including at least 4 Pro Tour Players, Kévin Desprez (playing Tog), Antoine and Olivier Ruel (both playing Wallamies) and Fred Courtois (Dragon). All did good stuff, ending close to Top8.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2004, 10:47:28 am » |
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Antoine was here, too. We had a pretty high number of great french players on the tourney, including at least 4 Pro Tour Players, Kévin Desprez (playing Tog), Antoine and Olivier Ruel (both playing Wallamies) and Fred Courtois (Dragon). All did good stuff, ending close to Top8. OMG BUT PROS SUCK AT TYPE 1!!1
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2004, 01:23:50 pm » |
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Antoine was here, too. We had a pretty high number of great french players on the tourney, including at least 4 Pro Tour Players, Kévin Desprez (playing Tog), Antoine and Olivier Ruel (both playing Wallamies) and Fred Courtois (Dragon). All did good stuff, ending close to Top8. OMG BUT PROS SUCK AT TYPE 1!!1 Tom van de Logt won this weekend's Eindhoven. Results will be up surely.
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2004, 06:40:09 pm » |
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In fact, it has just as much benefit making the most aware opponents think they know what he's playing if he just switches to another powerful deck for next time. So I find no detectable reason for secrecy, seeing as his tech clearly wasn't that amazing--he didn't win. Well, I don't know how many tournaments you have been to recently, but in a field of 68, getting second isn't all that bad. Your pessimism is gross. Saying "...clearly wasn't that amazing--he didn't win" just seems way off to me, especially on a continent where ratings are important. Second, I find it hard to believe that the other 67 contestants are going to alter their sideboarding techniques because a one-of deck placed well here.
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2004, 07:25:30 pm » |
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I was hyperbolizing on that point. I understand that it's a damn good showing. What I mean is that his tech is not so outstandingly powerful that everyone will immediately jump at the chance to play it because it simply crushes the metagame or something like that.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2004, 09:14:35 pm » |
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Seriously. It's not like his Modular deck is going to take Type One by storm. (I hope I don't have to eat these words becuase I might commit suicide).
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2004, 05:01:25 am » |
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Seriously. It's not like his Modular deck is going to take Type One by storm. (I hope I don't have to eat these words becuase I might commit suicide).
Steve Oh man, don't tempt people to start playing Modular dude!
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2004, 09:34:14 am » |
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Rudy: By "commit suicide" Steve actually meant "play Suicide".
I can't decide which would make Steve's nemeses more motivated, though.
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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2004, 09:52:00 am » |
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<Smmenen> OMG I BROKE SUICIDE BLACK !!!!!!! <Smmenen> AND IT'S ALL ME !!!!! 
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