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Conveyor Belt
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T: Take the top card of your library and put it face down underneath Conveyor Belt.
2, T: Reveal the top card under Conveyor Belt and put it into your hand, if it is an artifact, untap Conveyor Belt.
Artifact card drawing that rewards you for playing a lot of artifacts. It also doesn't REQUIRE you to play a lot of artifacts, but it is much more useful if you do.
Conveyor Belt
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T: Remove the top card of your library from the game face down. You may look at it at any time.
2, T: Reveal a card you own removed from the game with Conveyor Belt and put it in your hand. If it is an artifact, untap Conveyor Belt.
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2004, 06:25:58 pm » |
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I'd prefer that this didn't stack the cards underneath it in a specific order. That makes it too easy to cheat, even unintentionally.
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2004, 06:29:28 pm » |
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The thing is is that it really doesn't matter if the cards are stacked in order or not, because they are put face down underneath it, so the player couldn't see the card in the first place.
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2004, 06:34:29 pm » |
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Even so, if someone had out Future Sight, they'd know what all the cards were (since they saw them face up in the library). So it's still an issue.
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2004, 06:40:45 pm » |
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If the card requires tapping to skim the card off the library and mana and tapping to "draw" it, I'm not sure what the problem is. You can't do both in one turn, so it's not a tremendously good card drawer. Keeping them in order maintains the idea of the conveyer belt. Overall, I think this is a cool idea.
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2004, 06:45:38 pm » |
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To prevent shenanigans, may I suggest...
First ability: "Remove the top card of your library from the game, face-down.
Second ability: "Reveal a card removed by ~this~ at random. Put that card into your hand. If it was an artifact, untap ~this~.
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2004, 06:47:19 pm » |
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You can do both in one turn, but it requires you to put it into your hand first. If it is an artifact, you can untap it then put a card under it. In regards to the unordered vs. ordered: I guess you could take whatever card under it you wanted, so long as they are all face down. Another way to fix this is just to make it better, i.e. Just allow the player to look at the cards at any time a la Gustha's Scepter. Also, I think I should have some Gustha's rules text.
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2004, 07:52:41 pm » |
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For reference, here is the Oracle text for the Scepter... Gustha's Scepter  Artifact When Gustha's Scepter leaves play, put all cards removed from the game with Gustha's Scepter into their owner's graveyard.  : Remove a card in your hand from the game face down. You may look at it at any time. : Return a card you own removed from the game with Gustha's Scepter to your hand. Note that you can't put something "underneath ~this~" anymore as it really is unclear where that something is. It needs to go to a specific zone, such as the removed from game zone. |
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2004, 02:27:19 pm » |
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May I suggest Imprint?
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2004, 09:03:47 pm » |
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Wouldn't imprinting the card let you see it in the first place?
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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2004, 10:10:14 am » |
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Wouldn't imprinting the card let you see it in the first place? Summoner's Egg in Fifth Dawn imprints cards face down, so if it were from the top of your library like this is then imprint should be fine. Im not sure if imprint needs to used for this however: Mangara's Tome Artifact When Mangara's Tome comes into play, search your library for five cards. Remove those cards from the game face down, then shuffle them. Then shuffle your library. 2: The next time you would draw a card this turn, instead put the top card removed from the game with Mangara's Tome into its owner's hand. Similar to scepter and how i think it should be templated. |
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2004, 01:09:25 pm » |
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24 HR clock.
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2004, 01:13:48 pm » |
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24 HR clock. Your current wording does not make sense as far as the rules are concerned. Please update it to use modern templating. |
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2004, 01:18:42 pm » |
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Something like this: Conveyor Belt
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T: Remove the top card of your library from the game face down. You may look at it at any time.
2, T: Reveal a card you own removed from the game with Conveyor Belt and put it in your hand. If it is an artifact, untap Conveyor Belt. |
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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2004, 11:39:06 am » |
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Done. 24 hours.
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2004, 11:47:15 am » |
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Gah, I missed one small change. This shouldn't say "return"--see my (now edited) previous post for a fix.
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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2004, 10:12:11 pm » |
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okie dokie. 24 hour this thingie
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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2004, 10:05:19 pm » |
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Closed and added.
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