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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2004, 03:06:30 pm » |
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The way these cards have been sanded makes it obvious that they are most likely CE, but if this cannot be proven, then how can these not be considered tourney legal? Just curious.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2004, 03:23:10 pm » |
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I guess that just depends where the burden of proof lies :lol:
Seriously, I understand the seller may not have marked these well enough, but aren't the buyers being pretty stupid here too?
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2004, 03:26:16 pm » |
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Here's a stupid question but is actual sandpaper used to sand these cards down?
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2004, 03:27:05 pm » |
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Seriously, I understand the seller may not have marked these well enough, but aren't the buyers being pretty stupid here too?
That might depend if these are tourney legal or not. And we know where the burden of proof lies, don't we?  |
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2004, 03:30:32 pm » |
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Well, I am sure it is with me, but I am not sure what I am trying to prove!
Does anyone actually know where it lies? If a card like that is challenged (at a DCI sanctioned tourney) what is the process for determining if it is legal?
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2004, 03:56:25 pm » |
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Obviousness to the extreme.
It's even more blatant when they're right in front of you.
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2004, 04:08:13 pm » |
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Obviousness to the extreme.
It's even more blatant when they're right in front of you. If it's that blatant when you see them, then these aren't going to pass in tournament play very easily. |
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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2004, 04:34:22 pm » |
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Plus, if a card is this badly sanded, you can most likely 'feel' it even in a sleeve, which would make it illegal by default. And even if not, shit like this is always at the judges discretion. If you don't agree with it, you can appeal the decision with the DCI.
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<j_orlove> I am semi-religious
<BR4M> I like that. which half of god do you believe in?
<j_orlove> the half that tells me how to live my life
<j_orlove> but not the half that tells me how others should live theirs
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2004, 12:24:04 am » |
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Well that auction is over the Twister went for $76 and the Walk was like $165 he made some bank if those were CE! If not then there are one less of the power card in any reasonable condition and ours are worth that much more...
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2004, 03:39:49 am » |
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No, actually, since these are one MORE of each of the two power cards in this auction (since they were 'upgraded' from non-playable CE to possibly playable undetectable fakes) our cards are now worth somewhat less. Sane demand + more supply = lower price |
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<j_orlove> I am semi-religious
<BR4M> I like that. which half of god do you believe in?
<j_orlove> the half that tells me how to live my life
<j_orlove> but not the half that tells me how others should live theirs
R.I.P. Rudy van Soest a.k.a. MoreFling
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2004, 03:42:15 am » |
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Scam artists - doing their part since 1999.
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