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Wildthing
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« on: June 08, 2004, 06:01:06 am »

First of all excuse me for my english
Ive been playing gay/red and fish for almost a year but im having problems with the deck, especially facing random aggro
My deck looks like this:

Creatures:
4 Cloud of Faeries
4 Spiketail Hatchling
4 Grim Lavamancer
2 Voidmage Prodigy
1 Gorilla Shaman

Artifacts:
1 Mox Sapphire
3 Null Rod

Draw:
1 Ancestral Recall
4 Curiosity
4 Standstill

Counter:
4 Force of Will
2 Daze
2 Stifle
1 Misdirection

Utility:
1 Time Walk

Lands (22):
2 Faerie Conclave
3 Flooded Strand
2 Island
4 Mishra's Factory
2 Polluted Delta
1 Strip Mine
4 Volcanic Island
4 Wasteland
 
Sideboard:
2 Blue Elemental Blast
2 Fire/Ice
2 Maze of Ith
2 Rack and Ruin
2 Sigil of Sleep
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Firestorm
1 Stifle
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Misdirection

Main deck is pretty basic with the exception of no library of alexandria, I dont know if it´s very useful in my metagame I would like to know your thoughts about it

Sideboard is ajusted to my meta, it has a lot of landstill, keeper and some random aggro. I only run two rack and ruin because i dont face a lot of artifact decks. Sigil of sleep and mazes are very good against GAT one of the aggro decks more played in my metagame but sometimes there are not enough to deal with early dryads.

I would thank some sideboard tips about configuration and how to side against each decks. Here´s how i usually side in and out

Landstill:
-4 standstill
-2 Cloud of faeries
+2 Blue elemental blast (fire/ice)
+1 Red elemental blast
+1 Stilfe
+2 Maze of ith

Ive thought about siding out curiosities but they continue being broken if they are played carefully

GAT (fully powered):
-3 Null rod (??)
-2 Voidmage prodigy
-2 Curiosity
-1 Stifle
+2 Maze of ith
+2 Fire/ice (they always play meddling mage and werebear)
+2 Sigil of sleep
+2 Red elemental blast

I dont know if I should side out null rods and im not sure if stifle, firestorm and fire /ice could be woth to come in (maybe misdirection too?)

Keeper:
-2 Curiosity
-2 Cloud of faeries
+1 Stifle
+1 Red elemental blast
+1 Blue elemental blast (not very sure)
+1 Misdirection

R/G beats (one of my worst matchups):
-3 Null rod
-4 Curiosity
-2 Standstill
+2 Blue elemental blast
+1 Misdirection
+1 Sword of fire/ice
+2 Fire/ice
+1 Firestorm
+2 Rack and ruin (cursed scrolls and factories)

I´m not very sure with mi sideboard configuration Ive nothing to do agaist first turn fatties (unless FoW) and find the deck very weak against:

Suq´ata firewalker
First turn lavamancers
Drop of honey
Slice and dice

Thanks for your advices[/b]
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2004, 11:35:13 pm »

Quote from: Wildthing
First of all excuse me for my english
Ive been playing gay/red and fish for almost a year but im having problems with the deck, especially facing random aggro
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Sideboard:
2 Blue Elemental Blast
2 Fire/Ice
2 Maze of Ith
2 Rack and Ruin
2 Sigil of Sleep
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Firestorm
1 Stifle
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Misdirection



GayR or URFish typically does have problems with good aggro decks (which are rare, but things like TnT fit the bill). Looking at your sideboard, you run a lot of 1's and 2's of sideboard cards, which a lot of Fish players seem to do. While this might seem cute and allow you to fit in more things, I would suggest you narrow your card choices and choose the best ones. Think about Maze of Ith, for example. What is it in the deck against? You show that you are siding it in against Landstill, GAT, and probably other random aggro. I would drop those 2, and roll with 4 Sigil of Sleep, as they are just as good in all of those matchups, and probably better actually against Landstill and random aggro, which both tend to run 5 strip effects, thus negating any advantage you might have gained by dropping a Maze of Ith. I would also drop the 1 Sword of Fire and Ice and 1 Firestorm for 2 Gilded Drakes. Gilded Drake + Sigil of Sleep on any of your creatures pretty much equals game over for an aggro player. Also, to fully take advantage of Sigil, you might want to main deck 2-3 Razorfin Hunter. They are really awesome right now with all of the Goblin Welders in the format, and are also great against things like FCG and Xantid Swarm. Their synergy with both Curiosity and Sigil of Sleep makes them even better, and that's the reason I run 2-3 in my build. Here is what I would recommend for a revised creature base and sideboard for your deck for the expected meta you described:

Creatures (16)
4 Grim Lavamancer
3 Razorfin Hunter
4 Cloud of Faeries
3 Spiketail Hatchling
2 Gorilla Shaman

Sideboard (15)
4 Sigil of Sleep
2 Gilded Drake
3 Blue Elemental Blast
2 Red Elemental Blast
3 Rack and Ruin
1 Stifle

Try it out; I'm pretty sure it's what you are looking for.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2004, 03:03:07 pm »

Thanks for your help
I know sigils are very good but Im afraid of loosing 2 cards at the same time and sigils cant be played under standstill. ive tested gilded drake when i played mono blue fish and i think they are not very versatile only useful against mask and GAT, would you side them in against exalted keeper?
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