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« on: August 24, 2004, 03:57:20 am »

OK, so here's the thing. I'm currently living in a bungalow that's in somebody's back yard. These people have cable internet in their house, but no lines run to said bungalow. SInce I really want internet over there, I figured I could do it wireless. I have more or less the same setup back home, so I didn't expect any real problems. Ofcourse, since PC's never do what you want, I ran into some and thought that maybe someone who's really good with networks and stuff might be able to help me out. This is the setup.

Old situation:

Cable modem in the house connects straight to the owner's prime PC's network adapter through a UTP cable (pretty long distance, >20). This PC is usually on, and 'splits' the signal to two othger stations with one additional network adapter (te other 2 pc's are connected via coaxial cables to the first one and obviously only have internet when the prime PC is on).

New situation:

I installed a wireless router (benq awl700). The cable modem now connects to the WAN port on the router. The UTP cable (coming from this guy's prime PC) now connects to the LAN1 port of the router instead of the cable modem. My notebook (in the bungalow) is equipped with a wireless 802.11b network adapter (USB, and ofcourse the same standard as the router).

I installed it best I knew how. My notebook sees the router, and after acessing it and setting it up for DHCP (apperently, no MAC adress cloning was needed), it gives me An Internet Connection. Halleluja. Problem is, now this guy's prime PC isn't getting a signal anymore. So in the old setup, he has internet and I don't, and in the new one, I have internet and he doens't. I'm thinking it might have to do with IP adresses of his other computers (the one he has the LAN with that connect straight to the prime PC) but I don't know enough about those to be able to fix it.

I reset the whole deal, cleared the router's memory and restored the old situation. Presto! This guys' internet connection came back to life. Now I tried setting up the router (setting DHCP and such, and this time wanting to close the prime PC's physical adress) using the prime PC, but if I connect it to the router it doesn't even see it. I can't even get in the router's software via this guy's prime PC, even though it's connected straight to it, using the same cable that used to go directly to the modem (meaning: the cable works).

This must be what's causing the connection problems. Even more strangely, the prime PC knows it's connected to something since the adapter's light is on (no transmission however). Same for the router. When I look at the network configuration, the connection is enabled.

Simple solutions that occured to me and didn't work:
- 'obtain IP automatically' could be off, but it wasn't.
- ipconfig /all showed 2 active network adapters, one of which had DHCP enabled but doesn't recieve an IP adress when it's connectied to the router (this is presumably the one conencted to the router / cable modem)
- ipconfig /release and /renew doesn't work since 'there is already a station with the same name' or something. If I manually shut down the network connections to this guys 2 other LAN PC's, it doesn't give this error anymore but still nothing happens. If I connect the cable straight to the cable modem again (removing the router), /release and /renew actually DO give an IP adress to the prime PC and the connection magically reappears.

Doe ANYONE know what the deal is here?
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2004, 02:43:41 am »

UPDATE: More Weirdness.

OK, so the thought occurred to me that the router might be giving out IP adresses that corresponded to ones already being used. I used my notebook to change my router stats to distribute IP's upwards of 192.168.1.100. When connecting the prime PC to the router, it DID recieve an IP from the router, but I STILL couldn't access it.

Then I connected the router to the prime PC using a different network adapter than the one that was used to connect it to the modem previously (I used a spare UTP port on one of the coaxial network adapters this time around). I IMMEDIATELY saw the router and was able to access it.

Strangely, it STILL doesn't allow me to connect to the internet, even after having cloned the original adapter's MAC adress to the router.

I hate computers.
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2004, 03:50:39 am »

www.tweakers.nl or Call Mike.
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2004, 08:54:52 am »

I can't troubleshoot these things over the web. Sad  I wish I could.

If I were there, I'm sure I could fix it too. Sad
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