3CB Tournament #36 Results and Discussion

[wonkey_donkey]

I’d like to congratulate Alfred as the winner of 3CB Tournament #36
Enormous tournament this time round! Only the second 30+ entrant tournament (the only other one taking place whilst TMD was down)!
There were no winners of the mize-prize, unsurprisingly.

The rules for this competition will be: Anything Goes!

Banned list:
Portal
Unglued
Black Lotus
Mesmeric Fiend
Blackmail
Chain of Smog
Hymn to Tourach
Cabal Therapy
Encroach
Mind Swords
Forget
Anvil of Bogardan
Strip Mine
Wasteland
Raze
The Rack
Wheel of Torture
Balance
Meddling Mage
Show and Tell
Isochron Scepter
Phrexian Dreadnaught
Lion's Eye Diamond
Evil Presence
Sea's Claim

Entrant – Deck Name – Deck

1. wonkey_donkey – guiness.dec – Mishra’s Factory, Sheltered Valley, Powder Keg
2. pinky – Field Agents – Sulfur Vent, Sleeper Agent, Energy Field
3. Lockdown – bringitonturn6.dec – Hollow Trees, Channel The Suns, Bringer of the Red Dawn
4. Fastbond – Serrated Ferropedes on a stick.dec – Mishra’s Workshop, Serrated Biskelion, Ferropede
5. Paloma – Cheat Commandos-os – Mishra’s Workshop, Trinisphere, Ferropede
6. combo_dude – I’m a Lumberjack and I’m OK.dec – Taiga, Orcish Lumberjack, Aftershock
7. theorigamist – Cagematch.dec – Saprazzan Cove, Rackling, Skullcage
8. b4r0n – Channelground Angel – Havenwood Battleground, Channel, Platinum Angel
9. Setnakt – (no name) – Peat Bog, Wrench Mind, Wretched Anurid
10. Ephraim – Slash and Burn - Taiga, Orcish Lumberjack, Creeping Mold
11. Lyrrhus – Factory Clean Room.dec – Mishra’s Factory, Mox Pearl, Seal of Cleansing
12. LotusHead – Traitorous Words – City of Traitors, Mox Ruby, Words of War
13. Alfred – Caged Beast – Mishra’s Workshop, Phyrexian War Beast, Pauper’s Cage
14. Machinus – n00b50|2.dec – Mishra’s Factory, Mox Sapphire, Hesitation
15. wuaffiliate – ILikePie – Hickory Woodlot, Channel, Darksteel Colossus
16. goober – Squirrels – Hollow Trees, Squirrel Nest, Earthcraft
17. r_x_ - NO.dec - Mishra’s Factory, Mox Sapphire, Hesitation
18. PandaPokemon – Inefficient.dec – City of Traitors, Ancient Tomb, Nevinyrral’s Disk
19. Rozetta – GroAThopt – Mishra’s Workshop, Ornithopter, Energy Chamber
20. BlueJay – Tuna Can – Island, Rishadan Port, Reef Shaman
21. Zelc – I’m Dry For Ideas.dec – Treetop Village, Eladamri’s Vineyard, Naturalize
22. I Against I – Stompy – Pendelhaven, Thallid, Scavenger Folk
23. Ralph Caron – (no name) – Mishra’s Workshop, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs
24. Alc0Ped – (no name) – Mishra’s Workshop, Mishra’s Workshop, Tetravus
25. CmdrSam – A-door-ation – Icatian Store, False Dawn, Door to Nothingness
26. MoreFling – (no name) – Plains, Mother Of Runes, Swords to Plowshares
27. SilverDragon – Ugh – Havenwood Battleground, Quicksand, Uktabi Urangutang
28. DI419! – (no name) - Mishra’s Workshop, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs
29. Nibbles – (no name) – Aether Vial, Sheltered Valley, 1996 World Champion
30. Virtual – Good Ole Lumbercrack - Taiga, Orcish Lumberjack, Aftershock
31. geela234 – Chocolate covered pain – Peat Bog, Skittering Skirge, Diabolic Edict
How to read the table:
Match the deck# on the left with the deck # on top. The #s on the right of that deck correspond to how many points that deck received versus the deck on top. (Append as necessary. The first digits are missing to make the table more clear)

0  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1   Total
1| x 6 6 2 6 2 6 3 4 2 2 6 6 2 0 0 2 6 6 2 6 0 6 0 6 2 2 6 6 2 2      107
2| 0 x 6 4 0 0 6 2 3 0 0 6 6 2 6 6 2 2 6 2 0 6 6 6 6 2 6 6 6 0 2      105
3| 0 0 x 0 0 0 6 0 0 0 6 6 0 0 0 6 0 2 0 2 0 6 0 0 6 0 6 0 6 0 0      52
4| 2 1 6 x 6 6 6 6 6 4 0 0 0 2 0 6 2 6 6 6 0 6 0 6 6 6 2 0 6 6 4      113
5| 0 6 6 0 x 3 0 6 6 3 3 3 0 3 6 6 3 2 6 6 6 3 0 0 6 4 0 0 2 3 6      98
6| 2 6 6 1 3 x 6 6 3 4 6 0 0 0 6 6 0 6 6 6 6 0 4 6 6 0 4 4 2 3 4      112
7| 0 0 0 0 6 0 x 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 6 2 6 0 2 0 0 6 0 6 6 6 6 0 0 0      54
8| 3 2 6 0 0 0 6 x 3 0 0 6 6 0 6 6 0 2 4 4 0 0 0 2 6 0 2 0 6 0 0      68
9| 1 3 6 0 0 3 6 3 x 3 2 6 0 2 3 6 2 4 0 4 3 0 1 3 6 2 4 1 6 3 3      86
0| 2 6 6 1 3 1 6 6 3 x 6 3 0 0 6 6 0 6 6 2 6 0 4 6 6 0 3 4 2 1 3      104
1| 2 6 0 6 3 0 6 6 2 0 x 6 0 3 6 6 3 6 6 2 6 0 6 6 6 0 2 6 6 0 0      107
2| 0 0 0 6 3 6 6 0 0 3 0 x 0 3 0 6 3 2 3 6 0 0 6 0 6 6 6 6 0 6 6      89
3| 0 0 6 6 6 6 6 0 6 6 6 6 x 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 0 3 6 6 6 6 6 6 3 6 0      144
4| 2 2 6 2 3 6 2 6 2 6 3 3 0 x 6 0 3 6 3 2 6 0 4 6 6 2 2 4 3 6 0      102
5| 6 0 6 6 0 0 6 0 3 0 0 6 0 0 x 6 0 2 6 4 0 0 0 3 6 0 2 0 6 0 0      68
6| 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 0 x 6 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 6 6 6 0 2 0 0      42
7| 2 2 6 2 3 6 2 6 2 6 3 3 0 3 6 0 x 6 3 2 6 0 4 6 6 2 2 4 3 6 0      102
8| 0 2 2 0 2 0 0 2 1 0 0 2 0 0 2 2 0 x 2 2 0 2 2 2 0 2 2 2 2 0 2      35
9| 0 0 6 0 0 0 6 2 6 0 0 3 0 3 0 6 3 2 x 6 0 0 0 6 6 0 2 0 0 0 0      57
0| 2 2 2 0 0 0 2 1 1 2 2 0 0 2 1 2 2 2 0 x 2 0 0 1 2 0 1 0 0 0 1      30
1| 0 6 6 6 0 0 6 6 3 0 0 6 6 0 6 6 0 6 6 2 x 6 6 6 6 0 6 6 6 0 0      113
2| 6 0 0 0 3 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 3 6 6 6 6 2 6 6 0 x 6 6 6 2 6 6 6 6 1      137
3| 0 0 6 6 6 1 0 6 4 1 0 0 0 1 6 6 1 2 6 6 0 0 x 6 0 6 2 3 6 1 6      88
4| 6 0 6 0 6 0 6 2 3 0 0 6 0 0 3 6 0 2 0 4 0 0 0 x 6 0 2 0 6 0 1      65
5| 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 0 2 0 0 6 0 x 6 0 6 6 0 0      26
6| 2 2 6 0 1 6 0 6 2 6 6 0 0 2 6 0 2 2 6 6 6 2 0 6 0 x 2 0 2 6 2      87
7| 2 0 0 2 6 1 0 2 1 3 2 0 0 2 2 0 2 2 2 4 0 0 2 2 6 2 x 2 2 1 0      50
8| 0 0 6 6 6 1 0 6 4 1 0 0 0 1 6 6 1 2 6 6 0 0 3 6 0 6 2 x 6 1 6      88
9| 0 0 0 0 2 2 6 0 0 2 0 6 3 3 0 2 3 2 6 6 0 0 0 0 6 2 2 0 x 2 0      55
0| 2 6 6 1 3 3 6 6 3 4 6 0 0 0 6 6 0 6 6 6 6 0 4 6 6 0 4 4 2 x 4      112
1| 2 2 6 1 0 1 6 6 3 3 6 0 6 6 6 6 6 2 6 4 6 4 0 4 6 2 6 0 6 1 x      113

Final Standings:

1: Alfred 144
2: I Against I 137
3: Fastbond 113
geela234
Zelc
6: combo_dude 112
Virtual
8: Lyrrhus 107
wonkey_donkey
10: pinky 105
11: Ephraim 104
12: Machinus 102
r_x_
14: Paloma 98
15: LotusHead 89
16: DI419! 88
Raph Caron
18: MoreFling 87
19: Setnakt 86
20: b4r0n 68
wuaffiliate
22: AlcOPed 65
23: Rozetta 57
24: Nibbles 55
25: theorigamist 54
26: Lockdown 52
27: SilverDragon 50
28: goober 42
29: PandaPokemon 35
30: BlueJay 30
31: CmdrSam 26

No changes to the banned list from here, do people agree? A generally good deck won it, with a well-metagamed deck coming second - there was a generally strong showing of lumbercrack amongst other classics. As ever, there seems to be nothing approaching a dominant deck, and nothing remotely close to a viable mise-prize entry (please stop entering these unless they are genuinely good efforts for it!) now that the shahrazad issue has been sorted out.

The massive amount of decks is both a blessing and a curse, in a way, as it means that metagaming is made harder due to the size of the tournament! It means that the best deck will almost automatically do well in the tournament, but equally the tournament's surprise packages can sometimes be worse off in this kind of tournament, when otherwise it may well have done quite well! Let's see another one this size, though!

3CB #37 has started, so post any questions about the tournament on that thread. Any more general questions should go here.

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Please post corrections/discussions.

Tom

[Alfred]

W00t 2nd Place out of 31, not too bad! Also, I don't understand why I just don't flat out beat #14. He plays hesitation, I play pauper's cage to kill hestitation, play war beast next turn and race him. OMG, there are two hesitation decks, if I am right, that would give me 6 extra points, enough to WIN THE TOURNAMENT!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!

I should also win a game against "I against I" when I am playing first:

Legend:
* indicates it is my turn
^ indicates it is his turn

*t1: warbeast
^t1: scav folk
*t2: attack, pauper (17, 20)
^t2: sac killing warbeast, (15, 19)
^t3: thallid (13, 19)
^t4: counter, attack (pump) (11, 17)
^t5: counter, attack (9, 15)
^t6: make saproling, attack (7, 13)
^t7: counter, attack (5, 10)
^t8: counter, attack (3, 7)
^t9: make saproling, attack (1, 4)
^t10: he loses during his upkeep

alternately:

*t1: warbeast
^t1: scav folk
*t2: attack, pauper (17, 20)
^t2: thallid, attack (15, 19)
*t3: attack (12, 19)
^t3: counter, attack, sac killing warbeast (10, 17)
^t4: counter, attack (pump) (8, 15)
^t5: make saproling, attack (6, 13)
^t6: counter, attack (4, 10)
^t7: counter, attack (2, 7)
^t8: dies during upkeep

alternately:

*t1: warbeast
^t1: scav folk
*t2: attack, pauper (17, 20)
^t2: thallid, attack (15, 19)
*t3: attack (12, 19)
^t3: counter, sac killing pauper's cage, attack  (12, 18)
*t4: attack, (9, 18)
^t4: counter, attack (9, 16)
*t5: attack, (6, 16)
^t5: make saproling, attack (6, 14)
*t6: attack, block (6, 14)
^t6: counter, attack (6, 12)
*t7: attack (3, 12)
^t7: counter, attack (3, 10)
*t8: attack (0, 10)

If I play first, I can eke out a win vs. his deck.

[theorigamist]

Well, now that I've shown those who were unsure that Skullcage definitely doesn't need to be banned, I'll make a comeback and win #37.  I promise.

[Fastbond]

I can't believe my Ferropede deck did so well and that it got eleven places higher than the other Ferropede deck.  I think Ferropede could be a candidate for banning because it really hurts storage lands(I believe that's one of the possible reasons for a card to be banned in 3CB).

[wonkey_donkey]

W00t 2nd Place out of 31, not too bad! Also, I don't understand why I just don't flat out beat #14. He plays hesitation, I play pauper's cage to kill hestitation, play war beast next turn and race him. OMG, there are two hesitation decks, if I am right, that would give me 6 extra points, enough to WIN THE TOURNAMENT!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!

I should also win a game against "I against I" when I am playing first:

I think you're right on all counts. Congratulations!

The first post has now been altered to reflect the change in winners.

I can't believe my Ferropede deck did so well and that it got eleven places higher than the other Ferropede deck. I think Ferropede could be a candidate for banning because it really hurts storage lands (I believe that's one of the possible reasons for a card to be banned in 3CB)

Not yet, no. Not even close so far - I mean, it's been legal for only one tournament! True, it beats storageland.dec, but so do a lot of other things. It's not done an isochron scepter, so it's still ok for now.

Tom

[combo_dude]

Also, to clarify (for goober's good more than anything else), Earthcraft targets BASIC lands. Pretty good score for a 2CB deck though...

I don't think anything needs banning quite yet, although we'll have to wait and see until the next tournament   . I would have thought Trinisphere may have to go, as it can go at least 3-3 with most decks. But it tends to lose to storageland.dec, which loses to a deck like Lumbercrack, which loses to 3sphere...everything's balanced at the moment. The one card I have reservations about on principle is Rishadan Port, as it appears to be a card that can potentially create a lock like Trinisphere or Sphere of Resistance, but at the same time it can lock down storage lands or depletion lands - they can continue to produce mana, but they can't ever use any of it...

As a slight aside, Alfred - why use Phyrexian War Beast over Steel Golem? Isn't that just better?

[Alfred]

That's a good point, the drawback is less severe than warbeast's but not by much. BUT, caged beast sounds really cool, and I came in first anyway.