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Dr_Tongue
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« on: July 02, 2004, 05:03:51 am »

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 My newest pet dec that I am messing around with looks more like a hate dec than anything. It does fairly well against anything with blue/red in it (75% of the decs around perhaps have blue?.Seems like.) and if thy opponent isn't running Blue/Red, well hell ,lets just change that for ya.

 I'm looking for some Main deck help as well as any other decs that you have that are similair or that you might have seen.A search of Distorting Lens brought me 3 threads although I know that I've seen others on the O.G. site before it went down. Here's a sample of one of them.
http://www.themanadrain.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11487&highlight=distorting+lens


 The sideboard could use some more familiar T1 cards although the board reeks of Artifact hate for CoTV:1 and Null Rod.I'm currently using Mogg Salvage as a freebie against most artifact decs (see also:Island) as well as Crash although the Mountain is a steep price unless it saves your ass against Slaver or a Goblin Charbelcher.

 Distorted Villain used to be Main although creatures are a limited target when a simple Blast can combo with the Distorting Lens to give me 1cc INSTANT speed Vindicates.Morphling fit the bill as the clean up hitter when my opponents have been rided of those pesky permanents.

3 Polluted Delta (Blue/Volcanic)
3 Bloodstained Mire (Red/Volcanic)
3 Island
3 Mountain
4 Volcanic Island
4 Wasteland
R Strip Mine
R Mox Ruby
R Mox Sapphire
R Black Lotus

3 Distorting Lens

4 Red Elemental Blast
2 Pyroblast
2 Gorilla Shaman
2 Mogg Salvage
R Wheel of Fortune

4 Force of Will
4 Blue Elemental Blast
4 Brainstorm
4 Accumulated Knowledge
2 Thirst for Knowledge (dump an extra Lens)
R Ancestral Recall
R Time Walk
2 Morphling

SB:4 Hydoblast
SB:2 Pyroblast
SB:2 Mogg Salvage
SB:4 Spinal Villain
SB:3 Crash

 The dec is a BLAST to play !!!!!
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2004, 03:11:17 pm »

Seems like there might be better choices than the two thirsts.  Perhaps timetwister(you're running wheel) or intuition.
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2004, 03:41:04 pm »

It seems like everything this deck does revolves around having a Distorting Lens in play. Many of the ideas are good, but there are going to be quite a few games where you're sitting with a Red Elemental Blast in your hand and wondering what to do with it.

Also, Cunning Wish wouldn't be a bad idea, if you made the right sideboard around it...
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2004, 03:54:00 pm »

After sizing up your list, I did what I do best: consider more optimal cards over existant ones.

Mogg Salvage is suboptimal because it is overkill and situational: of the blue decks packing artifacts you should be afraid of (Slaver, Fish), Mogg Salvage hurts you more than it helps, if it can even save you in time (which it doesn't do Jack against Belcher).

Have you considered Isochron Scepter?  It has fallen out of favor lately, mostly due to the recent popularity of Gay/r and all the artifact hate being brought to bear against Slaver and 7/10, but this deck still appears a natural fit.  If you decide to try The Chronic, Cunning Wish might also be in order.

Active Volcano might warrant a slot if you are going for a theme, albeit it requires Lens in order to work consistently.

Considered going tricolor for Swords?  The theme here seems to be "counter and destroy opponent's threats", and creature removal doesn't get any better than straight up StP.
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2004, 04:52:59 pm »

I'd play URG so you can run Reap.  With the lenses, you can easily get reap to act as an instant-speed regrowth (not bad on scepter, either). If you can get 2 lenses going, you have infinite turns with a Time Walk (or infinite mana with the Lotus). With that plan, you can win with a single Gorilla Shaman or Fire/Ice (and can ditch the Morphlings). Of course, you should up the lenses to 4 for this plan.

I'd replace the maindeck Mogg Salvages with Cunning Wishes (that way you can also have one Intuition in your sideboard for the AKs and perhaps a Stroke for a kill condition). Tailor the balance of Red/Blue blasts you run maindeck according to your meta. If you see lots of control, you might want to up the red count a little, although I can see how the blue blasts are nowadays better than they used to be what with Welder, Shaman, Dragon, R&R, etc.

I have a friend with a lens/blast deck that is similar to what I just described. It's actually pretty competitive if metagamed correctly.
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2004, 03:03:55 am »

Well TFK became 2 Fire/Ice and the sideboard was rounded out to get rid of the unnecessary overkill on artifacts to include: +2 Fire/Ice and +4 Back to Basics as my dec can get around it with the 6 Islands / Mountains .Also 2 Misdirections in the board as well.
 I also swapped a Mountain for the Island as my Blue spells outnumber the red.

 Heres a matchup on Fish that leaves him looking for a permanent as late as turn 30 as I look for the Morph kill.This thing really chews up the Fishes as I sit back and become the counter dec early.

 Feldon808 rolled a 3, using a 20 sided die.
 Dr_Tonguelasher rolled a 11, using a 20 sided die.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'keep,'
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Black Lotus.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'k?'
 Feldon808 says:'k'
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Island.
 Black Lotus is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher buries Black Lotus.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'rrr'
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Wheel of Fortune.
 Feldon808 plays Force of Will.
 Feldon808's life is now 19. (-1)
 Feldon808 moves Voidmage Prodigy from Feldon808's hand to Feldon808's removed from game pile.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Force of Will.
 Dr_Tonguelasher moves Blue Elemental Blast from Dr_Tonguelasher's hand to Dr_Tonguelasher's removed from game pile.
 Dr_Tonguelasher's life is now 19. (-1)
 Dr_Tonguelasher moves Red Elemental Blast from Dr_Tonguelasher's hand to Dr_Tonguelasher's graveyard.
 Dr_Tonguelasher moves Red Elemental Blast from Dr_Tonguelasher's hand to Dr_Tonguelasher's graveyard.
 Feldon808 moves Daze from Feldon808's hand to Feldon808's graveyard.
 Feldon808 moves Volcanic Island from Feldon808's hand to Feldon808's graveyard.
 Feldon808 moves Grim Lavamancer from Feldon808's hand to Feldon808's graveyard.
 Feldon808 moves Spiketail Hatchling from Feldon808's hand to Feldon808's graveyard.
 Feldon808 moves Mishra's Factory from Feldon808's hand to Feldon808's graveyard.
 Dr_Tonguelasher drew 7 cards.
 Feldon808 drew 7 cards.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'up keep spell.....'
 It is now turn 1.
 It is now the Untap Phase.
 Island is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Ancestral Recall.
 Feldon808 says:'k'
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'me.'
 Feldon808 says:'mmm'
 Feldon808 plays Misdirection.
 Feldon808 moves Standstill from Feldon808's hand to Feldon808's removed from game pile.
 Feldon808 says:'me'
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Force of Will.
 Dr_Tonguelasher moves Morphling from Dr_Tonguelasher's hand to Dr_Tonguelasher's removed from game pile.
 Dr_Tonguelasher's life is now 18. (-1)
 Feldon808 buries Misdirection.
 Feldon808 says:'k'
 Dr_Tonguelasher drew 3 cards.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'your draw phase.'
 Feldon808 draws a card.
 Feldon808 plays Island.
 It is now turn 2.
 Dr_Tonguelasher draws a card.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Wasteland.
 Island is tapped.
 Wasteland is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Time Walk.
 Feldon808 plays Daze.
 Feldon808 moves Island from tabletop to Feldon808's hand.
 Dr_Tonguelasher buries Time Walk.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'k'
 It is now turn 3.
 Feldon808 draws a card.
 Feldon808 plays Strip Mine.
 Strip Mine is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher buries Island.
 Feldon808 buries Strip Mine.
 It is now turn 4.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Bloodstained Mire.
 Dr_Tonguelasher buries Bloodstained Mire.
 Dr_Tonguelasher moves Volcanic Island from Dr_Tonguelasher's library to tabletop.
 Dr_Tonguelasher is shuffling library...
 Wasteland is tapped.
 Volcanic Island is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Accumulated Knowledge.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'1'
 Feldon808 says:'k'
 Dr_Tonguelasher draws a card.
 It is now turn 5.
 Feldon808 plays Wasteland.
 Feldon808 buries Wasteland.
 Dr_Tonguelasher buries Volcanic Island.
 It is now turn 6.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Bloodstained Mire.
 Dr_Tonguelasher moves Volcanic Island from Dr_Tonguelasher's library to tabletop.
 It is now turn 7.
 Feldon808 draws a card.
 Feldon808 plays Island.
 It is now turn 8.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'response.eot.'
 Volcanic Island is tapped.
 Wasteland is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Accumulated Knowledge.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'2'
 Dr_Tonguelasher draws a card.
 Dr_Tonguelasher draws a card.
 Volcanic Island is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Brainstorm.
 Dr_Tonguelasher drew 3 cards.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays a card facedown.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays a card facedown.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Polluted Delta.
 Polluted Delta is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher's life is now 15. (-1)
 Dr_Tonguelasher moves Island from Dr_Tonguelasher's library to tabletop.
 It is now turn 9.
 Feldon808 plays Wasteland.
 Island is tapped.
 Wasteland is tapped.
 Feldon808 plays Cloud of Faeries.
 Island is tapped.
 Wasteland is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Accumulated Knowledge.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'3.'
 Dr_Tonguelasher drew 3 cards.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Force of Will.
 Dr_Tonguelasher moves Fire/Ice from Dr_Tonguelasher's hand to Dr_Tonguelasher's removed from game pile.
 Feldon808 buries Cloud of Faeries.
 It is now turn 10.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Bloodstained Mire.
 Island is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Brainstorm.
 Dr_Tonguelasher drew 3 cards.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays a card facedown.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays a card facedown.
 Dr_Tonguelasher buries Bloodstained Mire.
 Dr_Tonguelasher moves Volcanic Island from Dr_Tonguelasher's library to tabletop.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Mox Sapphire.
 Mox Sapphire is tapped.
 Wasteland is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Distorting Lens.
 Distorting Lens is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'blue.'
 Volcanic Island is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Pyroblast.
 Feldon808 buries Island.
 It is now turn 11.
 Feldon808 plays Mishra's Factory.
 Wasteland is tapped.
 Mishra's Factory is tapped.
 Mishra's Factory is attacking.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'just played it...'
 Feldon808 says:'sorry'
 Feldon808 says:'hmm'
 Wasteland is tapped.
 Feldon808 says:'waste'
 Dr_Tonguelasher buries Wasteland.
 It is now turn 12.
 Mox Sapphire is tapped.
 Island is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Accumulated Knowledge.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'4.'
 Dr_Tonguelasher drew 4 cards.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Mox Ruby.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Polluted Delta.
 Distorting Lens is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'factory is red'
 Volcanic Island is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Blue Elemental Blast.
 Feldon808 buries Mishra's Factory.
 It is now turn 13.
 Feldon808 draws a card.
 It is now turn 14.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Polluted Delta.
 Polluted Delta is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher moves Island from Dr_Tonguelasher's library to tabletop.
 Polluted Delta is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher moves Island from Dr_Tonguelasher's library to tabletop.
 It is now turn 15.
 Feldon808 plays Wasteland.
 It is now turn 16.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Wasteland.
 It is now turn 17.
 Feldon808 plays Mishra's Factory.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'I need a morphling Sad'
 Wasteland is tapped.
 Mishra's Factory is tapped.
 Feldon808 plays Null Rod.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'sure'
 It is now turn 18.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'end of turn'
 Volcanic Island is tapped.
 Island is tapped.
 Volcanic Island is tapped.
 Volcanic Island is untapped.
 Wasteland is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Mogg Salvage.
 Feldon808 buries Null Rod.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Strip Mine.
 Wasteland is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher buries Wasteland.
 Strip Mine is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher buries Strip Mine.
 Feldon808 buries Wasteland.
 Feldon808 buries Mishra's Factory.
 It is now turn 19.
 Feldon808 draws a card.
 It is now turn 20.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Volcanic Island.
 It is now turn 21.
 It is now turn 22.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'bah'
 It is now turn 23.
 Feldon808 plays Island.
 It is now turn 24.
 Dr_Tonguelasher draws a card.
 It is now turn 25.
 Feldon808 plays Polluted Delta.
 Polluted Delta is tapped.
 Feldon808 moves Volcanic Island from Feldon808's library to tabletop.
 Island is tapped.
 Volcanic Island is tapped.
 Feldon808 plays Cloud of Faeries.
 Volcanic Island is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Red Elemental Blast.
 Feldon808 plays Force of Will.
 Feldon808 moves Voidmage Prodigy from Feldon808's hand to Feldon808's removed from game pile.
 Mox Sapphire is tapped.
 Island is tapped.
 Island is tapped.
 Island is tapped.
 Volcanic Island is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Force of Will.
 It is now turn 26.
 Mox Sapphire is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Brainstorm.
 Dr_Tonguelasher drew 3 cards.
 Dr_Tonguelasher moves a facedown card to Dr_Tonguelasher's library.
 Dr_Tonguelasher moves a facedown card to Dr_Tonguelasher's library.
 Mox Ruby is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Gorilla Shaman.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Wasteland.
 Wasteland is tapped.
 Feldon808 buries Volcanic Island.
 Distorting Lens is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'red'
 Island is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Blue Elemental Blast.
 Feldon808 buries Island.
 Dr_Tonguelasher buries Blue Elemental Blast.
 It is now turn 27.
 Feldon808 draws a card.
 It is now turn 28.
 Gorilla Shaman is attacking.
 Feldon808's life is now 16. (-1)
 It is now turn 29.
 Feldon808 plays Faerie Conclave.
 It is now turn 30.
 Gorilla Shaman is attacking.
 Feldon808's life is now 15. (-1)
 Distorting Lens is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'red'
 Island is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Blue Elemental Blast.
 Feldon808 buries Faerie Conclave.
 It is now turn 31.
 Feldon808 plays Wasteland.
 Mox Sapphire is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Brainstorm.
 Dr_Tonguelasher drew 3 cards.
 Dr_Tonguelasher moves a facedown card to Dr_Tonguelasher's library.
 Dr_Tonguelasher moves a facedown card to Dr_Tonguelasher's library.
 Mox Ruby is tapped.
 Volcanic Island is tapped.
 Island is tapped.
 Island is tapped.
 Island is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Morphling.
 Gorilla Shaman is attacking.
 Feldon808's life is now 14. (-1)
 It is now turn 33.
 Feldon808 draws a card.
 It is now turn 34.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Mountain.
 Volcanic Island is tapped.
 Island is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher says:'5/1'
 Gorilla Shaman is attacking.
 Morphling is attacking.
 Feldon808's life is now 8. (-6)
 Mox Ruby is tapped.
 Dr_Tonguelasher plays Gorilla Shaman.
 It is now turn 35.
 Feldon808 says:'gg'
 Feldon808 is looking through Dr_Tonguelasher's hand...
 Feldon808 says:'best 2 of three?'
 Feldon808 says:'w/ sideboard?'
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