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Author Topic: Pentad Prisms and Sculpting Steel And Grip of Chaos!  (Read 1143 times)
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« on: August 15, 2004, 03:25:20 am »

If I copy a Pentad Prism with a Sculpting Steel (using, say 3 different colors of mana), does the Sculpting Steel come in to play with 3 charge counters, or zero due to some weird Sunburst/copy rule?

I think it comes into play with 3 charge counters, fair and square.

One more question (sigh...), if someone has Grip of Chaos in play(The enchantment that makes all targets random targets), and I want to Weld an artifact in play, what happens?  Assume both players have artifacts in play and in the graveyard.  Does the welder first randomly target an artifact in play, then randomly chooses an artifact in that player's graveyard to swap for?

Or is there a chance that the welding ability might fizzle due to me needing to give it two targets already? (example: I want to target my Mox to weld in my Memory Jar, and the Grip of Chaos randomly targets my opponent's Black Vise.  Would the welding ability fizzle? (this would mean that I couldn't swap my opponent's Black Vise for a random artifact in my graveyard. or would it?)

If it helps, just assume that both players have juicy artifacts in play and in their own graveyards.
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2004, 11:02:04 am »

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If I copy a Pentad Prism with a Sculpting Steel (using, say 3 different colors of mana), does the Sculpting Steel come in to play with 3 charge counters, or zero due to some weird Sunburst/copy rule?


You get 3 counters.  It used to be different, but they fixed it to be more intuitive.

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One more question (sigh...), if someone has Grip of Chaos in play(The enchantment that makes all targets random targets), and I want to Weld an artifact in play, what happens? Assume both players have artifacts in play and in the graveyard. Does the welder first randomly target an artifact in play, then randomly chooses an artifact in that player's graveyard to swap for?


Read the card.

Grip of Chaos
{4}{R}{R}
Enchantment
Whenever a spell or ability is put onto the stack, if it has a single target, reselect its target at random. (Select from among all legal targets.)
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2004, 05:23:34 pm »

Oh my flippin' goodness, you're right! I SHOULD have read the card!

(I did reat Pentad Prism and Sculpting Steel and Goblin Welder quite thoroughly though! Embarassed )

Thanks!
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