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« on: August 11, 2004, 10:21:18 am »

Hey,
This isnt a very important post so if the mods could just wait for me to get an answer, they can shut it down.
anyway, i have heard that there is a way to win first turn at your upkeep before playing a land or anything, I know it has to do with Elvish spirit Guide but that's all I know, anyway if anyone has the answerr please post thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2004, 03:02:02 pm »

You take an ESG and cram it down your opponent's throat.  Eventually he will choke and die, and you get a match win by forfeit.

Or you might be referring to this.
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2004, 03:36:09 pm »

There are a lot of opponent dependant ways, like having your opponent Bargain to 1 during your upkeep then Stormseekering them.  There is no way to kill someone with only 4 green at your disposal, if they have not done something to help.
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2004, 03:36:42 pm »

Here's how to win on your first upkeep:
Your opponent goes first, and plays Lich. On your upkeep, you use ESG to cast Emerald Charm for the win.

There's no instant speed kill for GGGG or less with no permanents, though.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2004, 03:54:15 pm »

Sudden Death Game

ESG, ESG, ESG, ESG, and Stormseeker.

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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2004, 12:24:02 am »

The possible win is actually pretty amazing. Here is a description of it in the following puzzle thread:

http://www.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/019581.html
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2004, 12:41:15 am »

1) Palm an ESG and grab your opponent's deck for the pre-game shuffle.
 
2) Whilst shuffling, you shuffle said palmed ESG into your opponent's deck.

3) Call a judge during your upkeep.
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2004, 07:21:12 am »

You : Remove Green Card. Play Vine Dryad.
Opponent : Remove four ESG from game. Cast Lure of Prey. Play Tempting Wurm
You : Play Yawgmoth's Bargain, Vedalken Orrerey, Triple Illiusions Of Grandeur with the help of the Tempting Wurm.

I am sure you can figure out something to kill the opponent with your entire library in hand and everything promoted to instant speed Smile
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2004, 03:42:58 pm »

This has a REALLY low chance of actually happening. But you kill them during upkeep and your opponent doesn't have to do anything, you could have won the die roll.

ESG ESG ESG ESG, vedalken orrery, black lotus, mana clash.

or if your looking for something that doesn't rely on tons of coin flips,

ESG ESG ESG ESG vedalken orrery, black lotus, timetwister

black lotus, 5 moxes, tendrils
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2004, 03:49:46 pm »

Quote from: Abhorsen105
This has a REALLY low chance of actually happening. But you kill them during upkeep and your opponent doesn't have to do anything, you could have won the die roll.

ESG ESG ESG ESG, vedalken orrery, black lotus, mana clash.

or if your looking for something that doesn't rely on tons of coin flips,

ESG ESG ESG ESG vedalken orrery, black lotus, timetwister

black lotus, 5 moxes, tendrils

Vedalken Orrery doesn't let you play itself at instant speed.
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2004, 12:49:08 pm »

Quote
Vedalken Orrery doesn't let you play itself at instant speed.


oh yeah...
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